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#31 Re: Car Security

Post by mgcjag » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:18 pm

Hi Brian....that is a major concern to anyone that has a superspoke.....especially as you say there was no mention in the fitting instructions......you should not be able to leave out a small part and have your wheel fall off......did you contact Superspoke and let them know......also could be worth you putting a new post warning users on here of the potential problem.....Steve
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#32 Re: Car Security

Post by chrisvine » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:45 pm

Brian

I'd completed misunderstood the need for the additional collar. I had thought it was to avoid pulling the wheel too far towards the driver. Your description now makes sense as it limits the travel to avoid accidentally operating the release mechanism.

I've sent them some feedback of how I think the product could be improved as I also think the grub screw holes are too close to the plane of the steering wheel. So much so, they could easily clamp on the Bakelite rather than the metal section mentioned above.

Steve - I agree it's a worrying safety concern. Although I think this issue must have been brought to their attention as they did contact purchasers to inform them of the issue and provide the fix. I'm assuming new kits provide the corrective collar. Fortunately I hadn't fitted mine at the time.

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#33 Re: Car Security

Post by BRM » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:52 pm

Steve,
Yes I was obviously concerned when I worked out what was going on. I emailed Steve at Superspoke immediately thinking that I had stumbled on a design fault of which he may not be aware. I didn't want him facing legal action for a wrecked car - or worse.

He then explained what the collar was for and apologised profusely for the lack of clear instructions and said he would look at rewriting them urgently. I would hope that he's done that.
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#34 Re: Car Security

Post by mgcjag » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:09 pm

Hi Brian/Chris.....just looked at the install video on there site....no mention of the sleeve
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#35 Re: Car Security

Post by Herzeg » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:33 am

chrisvine wrote:John,

I think this might be what you're after!

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I also went for the Superspoke and opted to fit the mechanism myself. Overall I'm pleased with it but I had a slight problem getting the horn push to sit flush with the wheel (they've offered to look at this). However I find the wheel & boss is able to rock quite a bit in the receiving part of the mechanism attached to the steering column (pushing either side of the wheel in the direction of the steering column).

How have you found it?

Chris
I love it. Have shown to the machinist specialist in our house and ordered one!

Regarding the other posts, I don't know if Superspoke changed their instructions but it was quite clear on mine that you had to fit the collar first. Mine went on first time, the only problem I had was getting the boss to sit centrally. Never got it 100% but close enought to not look odd.

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#36 Re: Car Security

Post by mgcjag » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:10 am

Just been talking to Steve Simmons at Suoerspoke......he is currently looking a changing the web instructions to include fitting sleeve/collar and will possibly post here on the forum instructions to ensure that the collar is installed.....he did mention that a redisign is underway to do away with the collar
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#37 Re: Car Security

Post by Steering wheel Steve » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:10 pm

Hi all,

Steve Hook has kindly spoken to me this morning about the various comments and feedback regarding our Superspoke Quick Release mechanism on this forum.

For the avoidance of doubt, we have edited the Quick Release fitting video featured on our website, please click here > https://youtu.be/PudAeOSJvjY to watch the fitment video - (specifically at 3 minutes) to include the fitment of the spacer which was supplied with the Quick Release mechanism. This is in addition to written instructions and photos sent via email to the relevant Superspoke customers who required a spacer.

Not all Quick Release customers have required a spacer because on the Series 3 E-types the spacer fitment was fitted as standard, as seen in our video (please click here > https://youtu.be/PudAeOSJvjY to watch the fitment video - specifically at 3 minutes) you can clearly see the standard spacer as indicated.

If you have any concerns, or would like to order a quick release please contact me, Steve Simmonds, on 0044 +1684 593226 and I will be more than happy to ease any concerns you have. Many thanks for the positive and constructive feedback as we have a history of dealing with concerns very quickly!

All the best

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#38 Re: Car Security

Post by johnben » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:55 am

Hi all

Like most I am reviewing the security on my car, anyone know how much the Superspoke is?
Also looking at a tracker system, lot of stuff around, do you really get what you pay for as there is quite a price difference between some units? appreciate any info.

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#39 Re: Car Security

Post by Stuart Exelby » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:17 am

John - basic cost of the Superspoke for the E-Type is here....http://www.superspoke.co.uk/jaguar-quick-release I hear that Tracker itself is pretty good using VHF systems and self-powered systems to try to get over some of the issues of signals not getting through containers or structures the vehicle might be hidden in - although I think the VHF system is not useable in some countries in Europe - so if you regularly go to those, you need to look at alternatives. Much of Europe is covered though. I think it's a case of using combinations of good security and sensible precautions.
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#40 Re: Car Security

Post by mgcjag » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:26 am

Hi John...if you look back through this thread you will see a recomendation by Julian for a tracker he has fitted...he is the only person i know that got his car back after being stolen by using the tracker
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#41 Re: Car Security

Post by Nickleback » Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:14 am

nottsman wrote:I've recently bought one of these http://www.back2you.com/self-contained- ... acker.html from eBay for a reduced price. Inserted SIM and followed instructions. Very easy and works a treat.
Well, the recent spate of thefts has made my mind up and one of the improvements that I have gone for is this:
http://www.back2you.com/compact-gps-veh ... acker.html

I have gone for the standard version with the cut off box all covertly fitted, should be done next week :hammerdrill: so will give some feedback ASAP
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#42 Re: Car Security

Post by Turnip » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:35 pm

Another tracker to consider is this one: http://www.trackersecurity.co.uk/buy.html
It's monitored, so more expensive than others. The re-chargeable version and replacement battery version last 18months/2 years between charges, so they're not a battery drain for cars in storage.
It also has a vibration sensor, so you'll get a text or a phone call if the car gets a bit of a nudge, rather than waiting for it to actually move its location.
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#43 Re: Car Security

Post by johnben » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:43 am

Hi Folks

Thanks for the replies, I think this self contained unit will suit me best http://www.back2you.com/self-contained- ... acker.html though I just need to do a bit more research on it.
Re the removable steering wheel, I know I have a simplistic view of things but if I remove the central locking nut retaining the steering wheel and put the horn assembly back, don't I have a removable steering wheel?
I am retiring to the bunker to avoid the flak.

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#44 Re: Car Security

Post by mgcjag » Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:53 am

Yes...but you have to get your spanners out.......removable steeringwheel set ups are just pull off/push on
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#45 Re: Car Security

Post by johnben » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:23 am

Sorry, I did not make myself clear, the retaining nut is permanently off, the wheel would stay in place in normal use due to the friction of the splines and gravity.

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#46 Re: Car Security

Post by Heuer » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:33 am

:thumbdown: :banghead:

Jaguar put a Palnut on because they were worried the main nut would come loose. Obviously should not have bothered!
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#47 Re: Car Security

Post by BRM » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:44 am

But removable steering wheels do not work like that. They have a quick release mechanism but when in place they are locked on - they do not just slide off.

There is a reason for the standard wheel having a big nut to hold it on - friction and gravity aren't sufficiently reliable and anyway after you've removed it a few times there won't be much friction left.

I don't think I'd want to be fumbling around trying to push it back on the splines as I'm hurtling round a bend at 70mph !
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#48 Re: Car Security

Post by mgcjag » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:24 pm

I assume you have the spinners on your road wheels :bigrin:.....i supose we should be saying quick release steering
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#49 Re: Car Security

Post by PeterCrespin » Wed Nov 02, 2016 2:28 pm

johnben wrote:... the retaining nut is permanently off, the wheel would stay in place in normal use due to the friction of the splines and gravity.
John, you need to correct the 'missing a' typo in your ID.

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#50 Re: Car Security

Post by Red Kite » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:15 pm

cactusman wrote:As requested, this is what I have

http://rbs-propertymarking.co.uk/gps_tracker_50.html
The listing seems to have disappeared from their website, does it have another name/brand name ?
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