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#1 Car jacking

Post by Monkeyfinger » Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:29 pm

Interested to know what car jack people keep in the car for wheel changing etc. I'm looking to get something relatively compact to store in the back. What are your thoughts?
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#2 Re: Car jacking

Post by Heuer » Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:30 pm

The only ones that will fit under the car when you have a flat is the Metallifacture one that was supplied with the car - available but £300+. There is however a better option and that is to buy a jack from a Porsche 944 turbo and file the oblong locating nub square. This is the one you want, labelled 'Porsche 944' and '944 turbo'; note long handle with black plastic hub on hooked end:

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12.87 = date of manufacture and will vary:
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File this to a square shape; width is OK but it is a bit too long:
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A grand total 163,192 cars in the 944 family were produced between 1982 and 1991 so finding a jack should not be difficult. The jacks are works of art and you will not believe how light they are! Should be standard fit for all S1/2 cars that will be used. Usually available on eBay for between £35 and £65 depending on condition.

One of several on eBay at the moment: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-944- ... SwxGBdKx0b

Telescopic bottle jacks will not fit so don't waste your money!
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#3 Re: Car jacking

Post by chrisfell » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:36 am

I’m lazy, and given the likelihood of needing a jack away from my garage suggests I’ll be using it on the side of a busy motorway (twice in 16 years), I prefer to use some of my 2+2’s more generous luggage space to carry an electric jack. It’s a little more chunky than the OE scissor jack or the original bottle jack, but not by so much that I’d consider leaving it at home when going on a tour.
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#4 Re: Car jacking

Post by Monkeyfinger » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:52 am

Thanks David - the Porsche option had passed me by, so thanks for that. They do at least seem readily available. Whilst I would consider the original jack to paint and hang on my garage wall, I like the look and weight advantage of the 944 option.
And Chris, I have also looked at the electric variants available, but my OTS is tight on space at the best of times, so I may need a rather more manual option.
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#5 Re: Car jacking

Post by JerryL770 » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:41 am

I have purchased, off fleabay a BMW 3 series jack. This will also fit under with a flat tyre and is easily wound up with the attached handle. It fits in my boot (just) behind the spare wheel.

Also needs a little adjustment with a hacksaw to cut slots so that the nylon top piece will fit over/into the jag lifting point.

That one is possibly more available and mine cost me about £30 delivered.

Typical:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-3-Series ... SwY5Ra2dvN
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#6 Re: Car jacking

Post by mgcjag » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:48 pm

911/996 also work..small lightweight
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#7 Re: Car jacking

Post by Heuer » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:39 pm

Can you get the height with the 911 jack Steve?
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#8 Re: Car jacking

Post by mgcjag » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:49 pm

Hi David...to be honest got it for the C type it works ok..assumed it was the same size....away for a few days will try it on tha E type when I'm home...Steve.....Edit...Yes David is correct not enough lift..only 7 7/8in...
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#9 Re: Car jacking

Post by Monkeyfinger » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:14 pm

Well, I have dipped in and ordered a 944 jack from the bay - looking forward to testing. I think I'll need to make up some Jag stickers to cover the Porsche branding.! Thanks for all the advice.
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#10 Re: Car jacking

Post by bobsnicholson » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:44 am

Just checked my newly acquired S3 (shock horror i didn't check before the auction) anyway no jack so this post has been helpful, ta
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#11 Re: Car jacking

Post by bobsnicholson » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:56 am

Looked on Fleabay and like the look of the electric jack (cause i'm bone idol).
Could someone tell me if item 163554080937 £35 ish would suit my S3 Roadster as i have no clue.
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#12 Re: Car jacking

Post by abowie » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:58 am

I have $20 wrecker scissor jacks in my cars.

Personally I wouldn't lift an E Type by the jacking points. 600kg to 700kg on 2 wheels doesn't look stable to me, and I've seen too many cars with their sills off to be confident that they would support the weight.

You only need to get one wheel up to change it and a scissor jack under the suspension is fine for that.
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#13 Re: Car jacking

Post by Monkeyfinger » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:13 am

My car will shortly undergo bodywork restoration and we will look carefully at reinforcement around the factory jacking points. My plan with the Porsche jack will be to make up a fitted hardwood block, so I can use it under suspension as required, if the jacking points don't give me confidence. Ultimately, it's about having the right kit at the roadside in the event of a puncture. I don't want to keep a trolley jack in the boot if a nice alloy scissor jack will do the job.
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Post by PeterCrespin » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:02 am

bobsnicholson wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:56 am
Looked on Fleabay and like the look of the electric jack (cause i'm bone idol).
Could someone tell me if item 163554080937 £35 ish would suit my S3 Roadster as i have no clue.
Your item number didn’t come up but nobody with any 2+2 or V12 can use the square pad SWB jacks in this thread.

Instead they can use Metallifacture XJ jacks with a round hole receiver for the LWB jacking nipples by each wheel. Cheap as chips.
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#15 Re: Car jacking

Post by Monkeyfinger » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:30 am

Just had a quick look at XJ jack's- I think the price of chips may have gone up recently... ;-)
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Post by abowie » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:39 am

PeterCrespin wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:02 am
round hole receiver
jacking
nipples
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#17 Re: Car jacking

Post by Heuer » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:57 am

I should point out two things:

1. The Porsche jack is so strong you can use it to jack the car under any appropriate point the nub will safely fit. You can also adapt a rubber pad to fit the nub e.g.
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2. There are two styles of Porsche 944 jack - one with the nub as described and the other with a slot in it:
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This will obviously not fit the standard jacking point but you could use it on other suitable points like any other scissor jack. Still way better than a steel scissor jack because Porsche went for lightness - you can lift it with one finger.
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#18 Re: Car jacking

Post by Monkeyfinger » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:11 am

Exactly my thoughts - just need a rubber or hardwood block that will fit onto the jack, and use it wherever it fits. It just needs to work for wheel changing.
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Post by ralphr1780 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:54 am

The Porsche 928 jack works perfect if you can get one. Needs some filing as David suggested above, more compact and quite solid, lifts the E very easily (engineered for a heavier car with one lifting point on each side):

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#20 Re: Car jacking

Post by PeterCrespin » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:02 am

Monkeyfinger wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:30 am
Just had a quick look at XJ jack's- I think the price of chips may have gone up recently... ;-)
PM me if hungry...
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