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#1 Alternator heat shield

Post by DWW » Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:39 pm

Is there any point installing one on an S1 3.8 with an alternator conversion as they never were supplied from factory?
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#2 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by mtnjag » Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:50 pm

I put in the simple stainless shield that goes between the manifold and rear if the Alternator.
Note that the REAR of the alternator is the INTAKE and the front fan pulls air from the rear through the alternator and out the front. So the rear shield at least breaks the direct radiation.

If your talking about the larger nacelle type shield over the top I think that's more of a safety protection shield for the belt and pulley.
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#3 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by DWW » Mon Apr 03, 2023 6:21 pm

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#4 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by mtnjag » Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:58 pm

That's like the one I used.
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#5 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by Series1 Stu » Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:52 pm

I made one for my 3.8 using 0.7mm stainless steel sheet and rivetted some fibreglass thermal matting to the back.

It was more for preventing radiant heat transfer when stationary but allowing airflow when on the move. I remember thinking that the factory 4.2 item appeared pretty ineffectual for radiant heat.

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#6 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by DWW » Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:37 pm

Good idea.
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#7 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by mtnjag » Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:43 pm

Good idea. Ugly but likely effective. Functionality wins, may put it on the projects list.
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#8 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by DWW » Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:27 pm

Ordered from Martin Rubey.
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#9 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by DWW » Mon Apr 10, 2023 1:47 pm

Installed today looks like it means business😀forgot to take a photo🙁
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#10 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by caveman » Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:20 pm

Did you opt for S1;
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Or S2;
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Or both. :shrug:
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#11 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by DWW » Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:47 pm

S2, a slightly tidier appearance....more pleasing to the eye.
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#12 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by mtnjag » Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:30 pm

The larger shield doesn't really do anything for heat as far as I can see. More of a "safety" shield I think. The simple stainless one shields the rear air intake of the Alternator from the exhaust manifold heat, somewhat anyway. The added shielding added by Series1 Stu does an even better job.
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#13 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by caveman » Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:51 pm

mtnjag wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:30 pm
The larger shield doesn't really do anything for heat as far as I can see. More of a "safety" shield I think.
DWW wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:47 pm
S2, a slightly tidier appearance....more pleasing to the eye.
:yeahthat:
S2 half the price too!
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#14 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by Geoff Allam » Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:10 pm

I recall that at one time there was a thread where it was suggested that the s1 shield was there to improve air flow through the alternator. Is that no longer considered correct?
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#15 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by caveman » Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:17 pm

Strangely, just read about it on JagLovers, not convinced tbh;
https://forums.jag-lovers.com/t/series- ... d/383259/3
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#16 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by Series1 Stu » Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:53 pm

mtnjag wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:43 pm
Ugly but likely effective.
Non taken!

Actually, I agree it is rather ugly. You've shamed me into thinking about designing and making a new version.

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#17 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by Geoff Allam » Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:14 pm

Steve, that just shows how bad my memory is getting. I recalled the thread and the variety of theories but completely forgot that I had started the thread. Anyways, since then I have acquired an original series 1 shield and will install both it and the little series 2 one just for good measure.
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#18 Re: Alternator heat shield

Post by mtnjag » Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:03 pm

Geoff, It never was correct. On these and most alternators air flow is back to front. The fan in front PULLs air from the rear of the alternator, through and out the front. Seems counter intuitive I know but that's the way they work. Common misconception.
That's why the shield between the exhaust manifold and the rear of the alternator makes sense and the top shield is a cosmetic or safety shield that leaves the rear completely exposed to the exhaust manifold heat. Might even make the alternator hotter when at a stop by enclosing it and not letting heat radiate off, don't know.
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