JT5 Gearbox Installation, Tunnel and Cover modifications

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#1 JT5 Gearbox Installation, Tunnel and Cover modifications

Post by rfs1957 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:57 am

There's loads out there about fitting Paul Cangialosi's 5-speed gearbox, but surprisingly little detail about what people really did to cope with the issues of tweaking/peening the transmission tunnel to obtain the necessary clearance.

(Photobox photo-orientation is a hopeless rats' nest, despite my best efforts - apologies)

As usual with my posts, no pretence at multiple-experiences of doing this installation, but - as usual again - I would have liked to read what I'm posting now before I got stuck in a few weeks ago.

The first thing to underline is that Cangialosi in Florida has sometimes had a bad press whereas if you read his contributions to the Forum (nom-de-plume : 5speeds) you will see that he answers carefully and respectfully from a position of production-engineering, manufacturing, and metallurgical experience that nobody else in this market (or that contributes here) can probably hold a candle to - although I stand to be corrected.

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Furthermore, during the 2 or 3 years it took me to get round to taking the plunge, on every single occasion I've picked up the 'phone to ask more or less stupid questions it has been answered by the man himself - unheard of nowadays ; my emails have always been treated within 24h, answered comprehensively, and with respect - also unheard of. When I rang him up unannounced with a question about bolts / threads /positions etc he knew all the answers off the top of the head. Try that elsewhere .... these things MATTER to me. His straight-talking may offend some, personally I find it a breath of fresh-air. He fixed me a delivery date, I paid, and then he beat his date. I was in the motor trade for 20+ years and was in his position for most of them - his patience and tact exceed my own by an order of magnitude.

We have a saying amongst some of my professional mates "All Firms Are Crap .... Including Our Own" - well, frankly, you couldn't say this about Cangialosi's.

Cangialosi supplies a 'box within which there are ratios you have chosen in discussions with him, it is delivered with a thoughtful - if perfectible - selection of the nuts and bolts and accessories required to fit it properly, and a thoughtful - if again perfectible - set of fitting instructions.

So I frankly can't see why anyone would look elsewhere - UNLESS and until there is some new PROVEN and TRIED gearbox in the market that makes adapting the tunnel of the car easier, which you will see - from what follows - may not be within everyone's reach or to everyone's taste.

I have to say that this could be done much more quickly and with far less fuss than the route I chose, but the IMHO the worst thing on any classic-car-'bike-'plane project is carrying out modifications that look implausible or look like amateur add-ons, and I am always determined to avoid this, however long it takes.


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The first thing we did was to hang the gearbox off the centre-support bracket and fit the tail bracket and rubbers to get a feel for the general fitting issues. It would "fit" within the Series 1 tunnel immediately, although there were contact issues in various places.

Some of the problem areas are not immediately apparent - you end up resolving one, only to discover there is another one hidden behind ; but it's not rocket-science.

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Having no idea what engine/gearbox movements you actually need to cater for, I set about aiming for a 10mm gap everywhere, which is probably excessive - but if you can get 5mm, you can get 10mm with the same approach.

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Some metal-removal on the gearbox castings is possible and encouraged - an air-grinder and a few 35mm 80-grit sleeves makes this 10-minutes work, although you may have a couple of takes as successive approximations are refined.

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However the principal issue remains the widening of the tunnel "shoulders" by 10mm on each side, so 20mm overall.

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I made a bit of 8mm MS plate cut to the shape we identified as giving us the required tunnel profile, it did one side and was flipped to do the other - bolted through temporarily with a couple of M5 screws, and reinforced with a G-cramp, it made peening back the tunnel lip a doddle. A 40-litre nozzle on the oxy-acetylene gave controllable local heating and then it's just a question of using the right hammer.

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With the help of my panel-beater mate we drilled out a couple of the spot-welds that joined the side-flanks of the gearbox area to the bulkhead, hammered/dollied the flank-to-bulkhead junctions, then plug-welded the joins - it's actually not difficult here to get a fit/finish that are way better than the original metalwork, and in practice I believe this has made a massive difference to the rigidity of the whole transmission tunnel, and reduced noise.

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I would guess that these tunnel mods took about 2 hours from start to finish, and required no panel-beating experience beyond general familiarity with sheet steel, flames, and MIG-welding.

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Once we had the clearance we thought we needed, I fitted the gearbox to the engine and lifted the whole lot back in to set the gearbox in its true position - although there were no surprises or real changes in clearances ; the only thing I would say is that the "rotational" adjustment available from the ovalised front engine mounting brackets has a surprising effect on gearbox-to-tunnel proximity and should be taken into account quite early on.

With the engine set truly vertical in the car I also subsequently got a much better air-filter-to-air-box-to-carb fit than I had before. For all Cangialosi's warnings about some fittings/brackets potentially requiring drifting/filing/adapting, I found that everything fitted perfectly first-time around.

The tricky bit is what you do about the gearbox cover ; mine is probably from a 4.2, a steel one, and I was determined to make it fit better than new. You DON'T need to go to the lengths we went to, unless you're an unashamed OCD sufferer like me, so don't let this put you off this gearbox - I am sure I would have done the same with whatever 'box I had ended up using.

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We heated-dollied-tweaked the front end to follow the new bulkhead cut-out, but you end up with insufficient metal on the sides because you're making it wider ; I made a horse-shoe from 20/10 sheet to replicate the bulkhead foot-print, then tacked this to the cover (all in situ), after which it just required a couple of 15/10 ears adding on to reinforce the lower corners.

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I had plugged and flattened all the original bulkhead mounting holes, so fitted five threaded inserts (sorry, M6) into just the bulkhead. By initially doing 4mm pilot holes, then opening up the cover holes to 7mm, you get perfect hole alignment and can then further tweak the bulkhead-cover fit with a hammer and dolly.

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There was a clearance issue around the speedo-drive, too, which took a bit more skill to do neatly, but with the cover in place and lamb-farmer-wrists it is easy to dolly/hammer the cover and tunnel flank into a perfect fit.

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Three of the cover-mounting screws came through in positions that made their ends needlessly close to the gearbox casting, so rather than fit short screws or gouge the gearbox (which would in fact have worked just fine), I made three new mounting ears for the cover that dropped the screw axis way below the offending seam and then fitted M6 inserts all round.

All the side fittings had new 15/10 x 15mm strip plates tacked on to reinforce the heads.

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Once all the fittings were tightened up, the whole tunnel area became a million times stiffer and better-fitting than it had before, which augured well for noise insulation issues.

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The access required for the reversing lights, oil-filler access, and (probably) front UJ greasing are all different, so we made and tacked circular 15/10 plates in place instead of the huge original rubber plugs, and drilled 3 x 1" holes (which you can centre and align precisely to suit your car) now fitted with suitable grommets. The filler and drain are really convenient 3/8 square female plugs, so require no socket or tool beyond a short extension.

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The reverse switch is supplied with poor wiring connections that occupy a surprising amount of room, and I had to cut/shut/heat-shrink these before they would fit - and then still ended up taking the wires out into the cabin, routing them up behind the carpets. With hindsight these would have been far more manageable with soldered flat-eyes held on with nuts, but the thread is an odd UNC which I didn't have .... I'm sure Cangialosi will supply these in future once he's asked.

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(tacking a support bar for selector-cover clearance metal-bashing)

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I had a slight potential issue with a selector-cover clearance, needing an extra 5mm over just a small area ; with hindsight this was an over-kill but someone might like to see how easy it is to tweak sheet-steel even for an amateur, provided you constrain the area properly - this took 30 minutes in all but gave me even more clearance and confidence that I wasn?t going to get ominous clunking.

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(G-cramps holding angles before heat-application and Warrington hammer)

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(Can't work out if this is a rib or a dip, but it gives another 5mm clearance over a small area)

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Regarding heat and sound insulation, I believe the proper place to do this is before the heat ever gets into the shell, not afterwards, and then fight it inside the cockpit ..... this aluminium-faced composite tunnel shield from Design Engineering Inc

http://www.designengineering.com/catego ... insulation

is easy to work with, follows curves, hollows and undulations with a satisfying thump of the fist, and sticks like the proverbial.

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(Hole punching for the rivet bosses - always done on end-grain)

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One of the things I realized during these operations was that the cut-out in the original gearbox cover was way greater than was actually required for the movement of the new gear-stick.

Furthermore, because the JT5 is lower than the Moss 'box, you can solve the issue of fitting the chrome-trim screws which - on my car at least - foul on the gearbox cover ; I ended up lowering the turret on the cover by 15mm, and making a flat plate (gas-welded all around) to fit the foot-print of the gear-lever gaiter and its retaining ring. This is the only irreversible modification to the car - if I wanted to refit the Moss it would now require a new gearbox cover because of this lowering, but since it isn't the original part anyway .....

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The original speedo cable was long enough, and a P-clip (just visible top centre) holds it stiff enough to keep it clear of the UJ. Expect to have to grind some off the rear of the selector cover, visible here - I even fitted thin serrated washers under the rear 2 bolts but believe this was excessive. Some tweaking under the rubber cover too, forgot to photograph this - but each gearbox cover will be different.

The 20mm black closed-foam sheet we make racing 'bike seats from seemed like a good starting point for the sound-deadening bung (old sofa or w.h.y.) that is recommended for installing under the gearbox cover, it can also be sanded (has to be by hand) with really coarse sand-paper to get really neat/smooth edges ; those edges tuck nicely down the flanks of the tunnel, a lip left at the front seals off the opening to the bell-housing, and I used some more of the Tunnel Shield to add an extra thickness that now sits over the gearbox to protect the foam from some of the heat.

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I realized at the last minute that the PO (in his rush to finish and flog the car in 1990, during the last "bubble") had actually resorted to GLUING SHORT SCREWS in place for the front of the gaiter-trim !

Is this a record-botch ?

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So it was a relief to find that the Festool 90° drive would fit to drill the relevant holes ... and the screws now all clear the gearbox cover. Will fit the right ones with cup-washers later, honest.

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The original ferrule on the gear-lever was slightly slack but a bit of self-adhesive heat-shrink on the shank took up the slack and is invisible in use.

The middle engine hanger brackets had to be further modified to clear the bulkhead seam - mine had already been scalloped in the past, and needed the scallop extending upwards by 4 or 5mm, so my engine/gearbox position is obviously not exactly where it was before.

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I had no prop-shaft clearance or length issues, everything was perfect, but I would confirm what has been written elsewhere - don't even consider doing this mod with the IRS in place.

The "slip-joint" (that's the splined part that ties up with the front UJ, to you and me) can't be fitted to the rear of the gearbox when lifting it into place, and is well-nigh impossible to coax into place afterwards, never mind fit UJ bolts comfortably ; it should be fitted, on the bench, to the prop-shaft, then slid up the tunnel from the back by one person and guided through the oil-seal onto the gearbox splines by another.

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SO WHAT?S THE RESULT LIKE ......... CUT TO THE CHASE ??? etc

For a start, the car is undistinguishable from the outside and inside unless you really know how to spot a bell-housing change and don't notice the different pattern on the gear-lever knob .... which I had intended to not fit, and keep the old, but the bullshi---r in me got the upper hand.

As regards the driving experience, and after 1.500 km of recent usage, having previously driven around Europe for 11 years with a Moss box and a 3.54 diff, words fail me to be honest.

French roads (on UK plates and UK driving licence, ahem) just have to be the perfect place to run an E-Type .... and even more so now, with 5 speeds.

How long that Utopia lasts remains to be seen, of course ??

The impression of silence, refinement, and effortlessness that you get when shifting from 4th into top is just .... Magic. The new 4th is exactly the same ratio as the old one, so comparaisons are easy. Fast driving on ANY sort of roads feels so much less stressful, and the "old" car is still just one shift down away.

First gear is 12% longer than before (2.95 instead of 3.37 ?), which I find much nicer and better adapted to the engine, Second is (imperceptibly) 4% shorter (1.94 instead of 1.86 ?), same for Third which is 5% shorter (1.34 instead of 1.28 ?), and 5th is a whopping 27% longer than the old 4th - but the engine pulls it without hesitation, and mine is bog-standard and probably even a bit flakey.

This is 10% longer than a UK spec Moss/2.88 diff combination, and I fully believe David/Heuer's judgement that a fresh motor with slight tweaking will comfortably pull a still shorter top gear with no detriment to the experience. Depends on where you drive ?

It's impossible to know where the mechanical silence comes from - tunnel DEInc insulation ? - excellent tunnel cover fit ? - foam padding under the cover ? - a good gaiter fit ? - all four ? - but the overall result is a complete absence of gearbox noise, despite warnings I had read about alloy castings producing more tinniness to the transmission.

Obviously there is no longer any whine from 1st and reverse gears, which is lovely, although I do still double de-clutch on all changes since my father forced us to learn this from day one .... aged 16, and in a Ford Escort.

So, yes, I would do this all again tomorrow.
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Post by Moeregaard » Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:26 pm

Very nice photo essay and description, Rory. The quality of workmanship in your modification to the tunnel is very impressive. I particularly like the flat plate added to the tunnel cover, that allows the use of the rubber boot underneath the leather one. Very nice job all around.

I noticed the repairs to the engine sump. Is there a story behind that, or did it happen prior to your ownership?
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Post by osgii » Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:01 pm

G?nial, very professional.
Concerning the heat shield, it's riveted & glued with high temps glue on the monocoque?
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Post by rfs1957 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:54 pm

Moe - thanks for the encouragement. The sump, I was told, by Ken Jenkins I think, shows original welding for some internal baffle or w.h.y. - if that's b------cks then it wasn't Ken who told me ! Peter C will chime in shortly, I am sure.

Osgii - this stuff has a peel-off film to reveal a horrendously aggressive self-adhesive surface ; sold in France by neighbours Exact in St Paul et Valmalle. Not cheap mind ............
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Post by Heuer » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:39 pm

Rory

Not sure why you decided to rant on about the Forum not supporting Paul C because we have always done so. I have spoken and emailed Paul on several occasions and he has always been helpful. He is also one of the few vendors we allow to post on the Forum purely because because of his in-depth knowledge. The last time I spoke to Paul he told me he was not supplying his boxes to the UK for some reason and promised to let me know when they would be available again, presumably through a third party. I do not recall anyone posting the words ?bombast? and ?the noise you make is deafening? as I would most surely have deleted them - as indeed I intend to do with some of the inappropriate remarks in your post, from my chair overlooking the beautiful Beaujolais countryside with the E-Type clicking gently nearby. The information you provide is superb but please try to remain positive throughout.

On the subject of the BW T5 box (I did not know about the Medatronics JT5 version when I bought mine) it is indeed superb in all respects and we have covered about 35,000 miles with it. Slick change, quiet, good ratios and a joy to use.
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Post by rfs1957 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:08 pm

Rant, David ? Read what I wrote - in saying he has had a bad press I make no mention of the Forum. He's definitely got up the noses of those who have tried (and failed) to copy his work and scupper his business. Those other phrases were lifted verbatim off the Forum just this morning. If you remove them then I'll be perfectly happy to see my comments amended.
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Post by Heuer » Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:37 pm

When you quote words out of context it distorts their implication. By all means refer to the thread in question so that others can make their own minds up by reading the whole thing but cherry picking parts to make a point in not on. Besides Paul can fight his own battles as anyone who reads the thread in question can attest! http://www.etypeuk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=671

Anyway, moving on ............... excellent photos' and description of great value to anyone wanting to go down this route. By the way if you think the 5 speed box is good then you really need to consider the Mangoletsi cable throttle system and EDIS/Megajolt. Different E-Type world.
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Post by 5speeds » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:41 pm

Rory, thanks for the great article and input. You are truly a master craftsman!

There are quite a few people that have installed JT5 transmissions with no issues. There could have simply been more grinding on the case or a simple phone call to me to ask how much grinding of the case would be allowed. That never happened. I also have installed JT5's myself with very little issues.

There is a generic problem with people not specific to the JT5. For example I give a "Read Me 1st" sheet with the Muncie 4 speed ( another gearbox I build ) and explain that the transmission should never be dry shifted which can cause sticky rings, and it is not an issue if they do get stuck, however people feel compelled never to call or read the information provided and start taking shift covers off the transmission. tearing the gaskets and loosing hardware.

The issue about fabricating new tabs for the tunnel cover, because the screws were hitting the transmission; Why could you have not used shorted screws instead? Please explain why you choose this option.

Also the custom chrome hanger bracket you are using has never needed to be ground. I think you may have it installed backwards or it seems everything is pushed a little farther back than it should be.

Also you mentioned the engine is now in a different position than before. The transmission would have no bearing on engine movement ( front to back). The pad height of the bellhousing stabilizer pad is in the same location as the factory bell. The idea of using the stabilzer although not really necessary anymore, is if it is left unchanged ( meaning left alone and not taken apart) it will reproduce the height of the engine so that during a swap the height is fixed and you can shim the trans mount to adjust for the horrible jag floor tolerances.

Again I complement your talent and thank you for the time you took to share these pictures with all of us.
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Post by jag68 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:07 pm

An excellent article Rory. You do very thoughtful and detailed work. I installed mine 5 years ago - in my '68 ots. It fit fine with the exception of the right upper corner of the opening in the firewall. A small firewall flange extended slightly into the space for the transmission, and contacted it. I simply bent it back. The box is certainly a close fit. I had a number of calls with Paul about various things, including my use of an upgraded clutch. I've never dealt with any vendor more knowledgeable and helpful - it's as if every transmission he ships is his baby and he's going to look after it come what may. It is lovely to slip the box into 5th gear on a fast highway.

Question - As the rear transmission mount is essentially solid do we need to continue to use the rear stabilizer? I've never seen this issue discussed.
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Post by rfs1957 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:53 am

Thanks for the various inputs.

The centre engine stabiliser brackets won't fit the other way round, but the chrome cheeks shown in the picture may not even be original parts as far as I know, hence the scalloping, and from the pictures I have showing the state of the shell prior to its restoration circa 1989 (pre my ownership) nothing would surprise me about its alignment or w.h.y.

Perhaps someone could show/measure brackets known to be Real McCoys, and also measure the distance from the lower edge of their bulkhead lip to the seating face on their bell-housing - this would be a good reference for everyone, perhaps ?

The milled upper surface on my JT5 bell-housing ended up some 4 mm lower (than before) in relation to my bulkhead lip, so shimming up the tail would have required some 8mm (there's about a 2-1 advantage) to compensate - probably not an option, since the selector plate would be well into contact with the cover by then ?

I haven't tried doing away with this centre support, but must admit that I regret not skimming the flywheel when all was apart since I have now got bad clutch-judder in reverse - to the extent that I'm wondering if I haven't got intermittent contact between the reaction-plate and the motor-to-bell-housing gusset on the lower LHS ......

Which would be exacerbated by the gearbox/motor being too low at the tail .......... thinking as he types.

Will dismantle the interior and the gearbox cover shortly to ascertain the state of everything, clearances etc, now it's all done 1.500 km of shake-down.

PS : Cover screws - could have fitted short ones but don't like varying screw lengths in apparently standard situations, and wanted to do away with big self-tappers in favour of threaded rivets - which have a certain length. Hence the 3 ear-mods, which I concede were probably a luxury too far ......

The base-line is that in the absence of data about how much room you need to leave around the motor/gearbox unit, for it to jump around, I probably erred on the over-cautious.
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Post by jag68 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:11 pm

The distance from the top of your bellhousing to the flange above it looks the same as the distance on my car. Just about impossible to get a measuring device in there, but from jamming various articles in between the top of the bolts and the bottom of the flange and measuring those it appears to be 1.1"

As to the problems of notching the stabilizer brackets: All the Jaguars I've worked on, and as well my '68, and the '67 I'm restoring have a cut in the flange to permit the stabilizer bracket to fit. The cut is centered on the bracket and is 3/4" deep, 4.25 wide at the opening and 3.25" wide at it's closest point to the firewall. I note your car doesn't have this cut - if it did I think that you'll find the stabilizer will fit without having to notch it.
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Post by jag68 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:16 pm

Rory - just to be clear I use "flange" where you use "lip" so we're talking about the same thing.
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Post by christopher storey » Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:15 am

rfs1957 wrote:
I haven't tried doing away with this centre support
This terminology does worry me slightly, as did Paul's suggestion of leaving the settings unaltered and putting shims between the bellhousing and the stabiliser bracket. As has been dealt with extensively in other threads, the stabiliser - it is not a support or hanger in any shape or form - must bear no part of the engine/gearbox weight . The top washer must be released by screwing it upwards, and the bottom washer then screwed upwards until it just makes contact with the bottom of the bulkhead flange . The top washer can then be screwed down until it just meets the top of the flange

It may be that the judder is the result of the engine being hung to some extent on the flange

Lovely , meticulous internal work on the tunnel etc . I wish I had either the skill or the patience !

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Post by rfs1957 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:39 am

Just came across this which makes a good case for the product and which is well hidden with the Cangialosi web-site.

http://www.5speeds.com/copycats.html

There's a great line in it that says an awful lot about the Classic Car spares market in general :

"I don't sell shock absorbers, E-Type coffee cups or frames."
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Post by abowie » Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:55 am

How did it end up Rory?
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Post by rfs1957 » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:15 am

How did it go ? Well, overall, Pure Magic from day 1.

The judder in 1st sorted itself out, presumably after a bit of clutch-flywheel familiarity. In reverse it is still delicate to avoid rattles - usual lowest-ratio = worst-case scenario - but that's irrelevant to gearbox judgment. If it's still like that in the spring I'll have a closer look at bracket-proximities, and my exhaust runs VERY close to the diff - reverses twists everything in the opposite direction, who knows where things try and move ?

But for the JT5 ityself : perfect shifting, totally silent, great ratios.

And the irreplaceable Added-Value is dealing with a guy on the end of the 'phone "who doesn't sell coffee cups" ..........

Re-reading my verbiage, I probably aimed too high at 10mm clearance all around - and 5mm would have been a lot easier to obtain, and probably enough ?

Really the only way to judge would be to have some sort of crush-pads (is there an equivalent plasticene-piston-valve stuff for this ?) in strategic places and do 10 fast/bumpy miles then cut them through ?

I had nice insight into One Of The Competitors' reasonings at Goodwood, recently, where I bumped into a Transatlantic cousin touting for 5-speed E-Type business on the P.Porter stand ; I admitted having recently gone with someone else ........ "Oh, yeah, Mediatronics JT5 .......... (dark and conspiratorial tone) ....... we gotta whole load of their customers .... "

Having spent 2 years poking in every dark cranny looking for unhappy JT5 customers before I took the plunge, and found none, I'm convinced that was bluster. I did come across loads who had burned their fingers with other suppliers though .......

So the chap on the Goodwood stand did me a great favour since I'll know to avoid all the other stuff he was selling.

Listen, buddy, nobody ever built a business by dishing the opposition.
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Post by PeterCrespin » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:53 am

Well Rory, I guess you'd have to ask Paul rather than trawl the net. If you're talking about business-building, it seems an odd growth stretegy to exclude yourself from one of the biggest potential markets on the basis of zero complaints?

I know someone who had seal trouble and didn't get much change IIRC. Still, your comments are valid I think, in general. As for specialising, that's a bit of a straw man. Businesses exist to remain in business and gene really I. Retail that happens when they sell what customers want. If that includes selling a wide range of products then so be it, so long as they back up their sale. I don't suppose your missus would be impressed if Carrefour only sold dairy products or the boucherie only sold beef. Sure, I wouldn't go to the shell station and expect them to sell Total but I'm happy they sell snacks and maps not just stuff they make. You made a fabulous job of your installation as befits a skilled customer, but you had to do a lot more than I expected, even without the 'optional extras'.

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Post by Heuer » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:43 pm

PeterCrespin wrote: ..... boucherie only sold beef.
Don't get me started on French beef ................ :roll:
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Post by abowie » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:03 pm

rfs1957 wrote:Having spent 2 years poking in every dark cranny looking for unhappy JT5 customers before I took the plunge, and found none.
Same process for me as well. My 3.8 with Medtronics box should (finally) be road registered in a month or so and then I'll find out how I like mine.
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Post by 5speeds » Sun Dec 07, 2014 5:51 am

As you know I don't frequent these forums much. If anyone would care to have me answer any questions please ask me directly.

First let me say that I enjoy forums where people can exchange information about what they did such as what has transpired in this thread. It's important.

Recently I came across an article about the "internet's" perception of experts. In brief, it was about how online forums create new experts and how the definition of an expert has changed. Now, my 34 years in the gear box business along with two best selling books on manual transmissions ( third one in the works) is easily trumped by some hobbyist's advice on a forum. This happened recently on a Cosworth forum where people were doubting my warnings about T5 5th gear removal and felt that the free videos I offered ( even though they were a solution for people not having proper tooling) were crude. Two weeks later I get a call from that person asking if I had some spare 5th gears because he decided to go with the hobbiest's advice rather than the "yankee who works like a bull in a china shop" ( as stated on the forum) and damaged the gear.

My point is, I'm surprised at the volume of people ignoring what I had to say. As if the 1000's of gearboxes I built throughout my 34 years had no logical bearing on anything. It's disturbing. However, this is the new norm. The new way people assimilate information.

In regards to JT5 sales. I am always backlogged. I have not excluded sales from a market with zero complaints as stated here, but rather from the ONLY market that appears to knock off and steal my designs , sell counterfeit products and saddle me with support complaints about products that are not even manufactured by me. This is not a large production item and quality parts in small volumes take longer to run. I choose to keep it like that. I build other gearboxes for non Jaguar applications in larger volumes and have to support the teams the use them. Its a good but frustrating position to be in. My books are on Amazon ( just search my name ) and I have support sites on Facebook and videos on youtube. I am working hard this year converting my main website to make it more mobile friendly.

Thank you everyone and a great holiday season and new year.

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