Quick Release Steering Wheel

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#61 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by Heuer » Wed May 22, 2019 5:42 pm

Just in case anyone missed this:
JJC wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 2:45 pm
I will make it worth your while....if more then 5 E-Types have disappeared in the last 12 months, I will make a forum wide apology to all members.
JJC wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 5:22 pm
so indeed, apologies to all
:bouncyyellow:
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#62 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by mgcjag » Wed May 22, 2019 6:29 pm

Im Sorry...But that is not an apology.......he writes the words but in the middle of a paragraph full of " Snide" remarks........his word not mine.............like i said previously his apology is worthless
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#63 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by golfnut324 » Wed May 22, 2019 7:07 pm

JJC wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 5:22 pm
Now Craig, when do I get my apology for your snide, mean spirited, uninformed asinine, brainless remark ?
I guess I should not hold my breath. LOL
I'm sorry John. I didn't offer one and I'm not offering one now. It is remarkably regrettable, the tone of most all of your posts. Here and on the JL site, where you were banned.
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#64 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by Series1 Stu » Wed May 22, 2019 10:37 pm

The thing I like about steering wheels is they are fundamentally round and help you get your car around corners. Some cars, like E Types, have particularly attractive and tactile ones. Some are even removable.

Let's not get bogged down in petty squabbles about insignificant details. Even though some people need to learn when to shut up, winding them up just prolongs the agony.

Let's see if peace can break out.
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#65 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by JJC » Wed May 22, 2019 10:44 pm

David , Steve, Craig. Its an impersonal car forum. To be used to exchange information to help others fix , repair, replace all or part of your E-Type. The removable steering wheel has become a hot button issue for you guys because you probably wasted time and money putting that useless thing on your car, and are now trying to justify your fruitless exercise to the E-Type world. I am so sorry......so sorry that your feelings are hurt, and that you wish you hadn't but that dumb thing on your car. LOL

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#66 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by PeterCrespin » Thu May 23, 2019 3:03 am

JJC wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 5:22 pm
Now Craig, when do I get my apology for your snide, mean spirited, uninformed asinine, brainless remark ?

I guess I should not hold my breath. LOL
Wallstreetman/JJC/Johnnie, alias-du-jour...

You are too much, you really are. To have reached chronological maturity without a corresponding mental acuity, or even a scintilla of self-awareness, marks you out as truly special.

There is a reason you have been banned by other admins after being given guidance on the behaviour required to keep your posting privileges. You failed to learn then and were eventually promoted from temporary banishment to full permanent tenure of the J-L naughty step.

Don’t get me wrong, I think in one sense you are one of the most valuable contributors here. You routinely show convincingly and single-handedly what patient admins and long-suffering fellow posters make up this forum. I miss the mark on both counts -being neither an admin nor long-suffering. I’d cheerfully wave you off the premises.
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#67 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by Heuer » Thu May 23, 2019 9:51 am

It seems Pete also represents the views of many members judging by the PM's and emails I have received over the last few days. Steve is implementing a ban on JCC for disruptive behaviour and being, well, just boring. Also looking at his previous posts (393 and counting) few add any value.
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#68 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by mgcjag » Thu May 23, 2019 11:29 am

Hi All...please continue with the quick release discussion........it was very good untill the distractions...which should be a thing of the past......Steve
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#69 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by 1954Etype » Thu May 23, 2019 4:00 pm

CMC had a problem with a previous batch of splines - too much play. Happy to report that this issue is now resolved.
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#70 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by paulsco » Thu May 23, 2019 7:24 pm

Do CMC supply a column lock like the Superspoke one?

I would think that this would add another level of security to a removable steering wheel as it would be very difficult to use something like mole grips to steer it (onto a trailer).

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#71 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by 288gto » Fri May 24, 2019 10:20 am

It shouldn't be too difficult to machine a boss like this one for landrovers that incorporates a high security round key cam lock. The only problem would be making sure it doesn't damage the delicate horn push contact. Thinking aloud perhaps it could actually act as a horn push and sound the horn if someone were to disturb it though that might be a nuisance each time you fit it.

David, Angus, or anyone with a CMC style boss, assuming you are happy to post a pic , do you have one of the stub that is left when the wheel is removed?


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#72 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by Heuer » Fri May 24, 2019 11:00 am

You can see the new upper splined shaft which has a wide key spline to locate the wheel correctly:

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#73 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by mgcjag » Fri May 24, 2019 11:24 am

Dont forget some models already have a steering lock....my 69 2+2 does.....when did they first appear....do some S1 4.2 have them..........Steve
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#74 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by 1954Etype » Fri May 24, 2019 12:58 pm

Yes, some S1 4.2s do.
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#75 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by 288gto » Sat May 25, 2019 7:48 am

Thanks David,

Based on your pic, it shouldn’t be difficult.
Steve, Angus, the steering locks on later cars are not that strong and don’t fail in the locked position like more modern steering locks. A big pair of grips or a short piece of scaffold tube would probably overcome them quite quickly so an additional device might be handy.

Another bit of advice I picked up years ago is to lock the steering in the full left or right lock position to make it harder to winch onto a low loader. Something to think about when removing a quick release steering wheel too perhaps.

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#76 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by Gfhug » Sat May 25, 2019 6:14 pm

Simon, you’ll have to add one of those bosses to my ever increasing list of needs and wants, please :wink:
I agree with your point of leaving the steering on full left or right lock and always try to do that when parking. Removing the steering wheel might deter the opportunist thief from trying in the first place, but anything that makes their job difficult is well worth considering.

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#77 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by PeterCrespin » Mon May 27, 2019 11:51 am

For the wallet-challenged purists amongst us, there is a cheap all-Jag option using the inner splined sliding column from classic Jag saloons. This has a milled slot in which a grub screw slides to limit travel, like the E-type.

D-types use a slit steering wheel boss clamped by a pinch bolt that crosses the column where the slot splines are missing. It acts as a cotter pin to prevent the wheel sliding off beyond the slot, even if the bolt works loose.

By using a knob or T handle to adjust and tighten the wheel instead of a hex nut and spanner, you can equally remove the wheel completely without tools. No horn push though.


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#78 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by mgcjag » Mon May 27, 2019 1:43 pm

Hi Peter....what saloons....the later xj6 s2/3 upper splined shaft is 3/4 in....E types are 7/8in.....is that a repro D useing S2/3 XJ6 shaft....S1 xj6 are 7/8 but think its the same as later Es....this is the mota lita D type boss....not sure what size shaft it fits.......do you know........Steve
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#79 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by PeterCrespin » Tue May 28, 2019 3:53 pm

mgcjag wrote:
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Hi Peter....what saloons....
Sorry, I don't know Steve, I didn't take it off. Mk1 or Mk2 maybe?

It is 7/8" with no split collet groove and corresponding nut thread for clamping tight like an E. Nor is there an external circlip groove to stop a loose wheel coming off in your hands for your very own George Formby "Ooooh mother!" moment. On the donor car it would have relied on the grub screw - presumably held by some kind of band clamp like the E. There's no facility for that on a D, though it wouldn't be hard to drill and tap for one. I've been thinking of putting a circlip groove on the end if I ever take it off.

The car is my work-in-progress D copy, and no, I won't be using those self tappers to hold the dash in..

The boss you show is the D-type style but they have various subtly different size front faces to fit D or E or other optional Jag wheels. I assume that as it is slit for clamping like mine it is broached for splines with no collet taper at the base.
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#80 Re: Quick Release Steering Wheel

Post by 288gto » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:36 am

Heuer wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 11:00 am
You can see the new upper splined shaft which has a wide key spline to locate the wheel correctly:

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Hi David, or indeed anyone else with the CMC / Barratts boss. Is it self aligning or do you have to be quite precise how you put the wheel back on?

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