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#1 ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:34 pm
by PhilBell
On recommendation I have replaced my failure-prone crank damper (the rubber was breaking up after just 20k miles) with a ProRace one which involved converting from single-V pulleys to double-V. Problem is that the 1050mm belt is too long, allowing the belt/tensioner pulley to cut into the bottom radiator hose despite the dynamo being at the limit of its adjustment strap. Measuring the new belt when fitted, it stretches to 1059mm, but relaxes back to 1050 when removed.

Measuring the pulley run and working out the required outside diameter, I've calculated than I need a belt more like 1040mm fitted/stretched, so 1030mm relaxed.

Anyone done this conversion and solved this problem? After seven months' work on the car, this is all that stands between the E-type and Le Mans Classic.

#2 Re: ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:06 pm
by abowie
I think the belt for the MK2 is about 20mm shorter.

#3 Re: ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:40 am
by Gerry
I think there is a double row belt intended for an early 4.2 car that is a bit shorter,I used this belt and got rid of the tensioner about 15 years ago when I installed an alternator.

#4 Re: ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:39 am
by mark10337
Hi

Try here.
http://www.bearingshopuk.co.uk/belts/v- ... ts/?cat=33
Different lengths and profiles can be selected on the left hand side.

Also stocked here. This will show you the GATES manufactured belts. Various sizes and widths.
https://www.radwell.co.uk/en-GB/Search/ ... goryId=311

Hope that helps

#5 Re: ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:25 am
by PhilBell
The belts I have tried are:
Late E-type 3.8 (labelled 1010mm but all the ones I've found are 990mm).
Mk2 3.4/3.8 (1050mm) and therefore too long.
E-type 4.2 (1100mm and way too long).

I've measured what I need and it's 1020-1030mm, maybe 1040 at a push.

#6 Re: ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 10:53 am
by Heuer
Why not get rid of the tensioner pulley? It is pretty useless and not at all necessary - I have run my car for years without it.

#7 Re: ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:54 am
by PhilBell
Hi David

I've tested that idea by cable tieing the tensioner out of the way, and the belt is still way too short.

Of course, the problem is exacerbated by all the c19524 belts I've tried (marked SBS1010) being 20mm shorter than the 1010mm spec.

#8 Re: ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:45 pm
by mark10337
Why not just order a belt sized according to the measurements you have taken instead of all the trial and error of various C.xxxx ones?

#9 Re: ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:33 pm
by Series1 Stu
Hi Phil

Is your car still on dynamo or have you converted to alternator?

Mark, I think Phil's problem is the poor availability of Duplex belts. There's only about 6 lengths available and you can't just order whatever length you need for a one off.

Regards

#10 Re: ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:53 am
by Heuer
You can run a standard V belt in one of the grooves which used to be a common fix back in the day as the Duplex belt was hard to find which is why Jaguar supplied a spare in the toolkit.

#11 Re: ProRace crankshaft damper - which belt?

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:50 am
by PhilBell
Problem solved.

Sourced a belt that was labelled SBS1010 (ie the one I thought I needed all along - late 3.8 to match the twin-groove pulleys that I fitted) and actually had the correct 1010mm outer circumference. Fitted perfectly, works perfectly.