Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

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#1 Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by 288gto » Wed May 08, 2019 2:08 pm

This might seem a daft question, but has anyone out there got key slots on both handles that are the same way up?

It is really upsetting my OCD need for symmetry each time I look at my newly fitted door handles. :banghead:
Every picture I can find has one up, one down. I've dismantled the handle and lock button but it doesn't look possible.

Geoff, I'll post your reply for you to save you a bit of time....... :wink: :lol:

" Why worry, you can't see them when you're DRIVING IT. "

While I'm on , another one that is really going to annoy me is the bonnet release handles. Does anyone know a supplier for Left Handed and Right Handed handles. If not, I might have to get some machined out of stainless.

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#2 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by Gfhug » Wed May 08, 2019 3:55 pm

288gto wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 2:08 pm

Geoff, I'll post your reply for you to save you a bit of time....... :wink: :lol:

" Why worry, you can't see them when you're DRIVING IT. "

Simon
Yes, Simon, why worry. And I can confirm one is up, one is down. IT IS NORMAL :roll:
And from all I've seen the bonnet lock handles both point the same direction, not both inboard or outboard.
But you can be different :lol:

It looks like you've not been taking your medicine again!! :swerve:
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#3 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by abowie » Thu May 09, 2019 5:52 am

One up one down is correct.
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#4 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by 288gto » Fri May 10, 2019 8:26 am

Thanks chaps. Despite it being “normal” and “correct” it’s still playing on my mind :lol: As Geoff suggests, I’ll have to up the medication.

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#5 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by 1954Etype » Fri May 10, 2019 8:39 am

I was sooooo tempted to say that originally they would both have been the same way up just to send Simon into orbit.....
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#6 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by malcolm » Fri May 10, 2019 9:26 am

ermmm......... Mine are the same way up! :scratchheadyellow:
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#7 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by Gfhug » Fri May 10, 2019 9:41 am

1954Etype wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 8:39 am
I was sooooo tempted to say that originally they would both have been the same way up just to send Simon into orbit.....
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Malcolm, aren't 2+2 locks different?

Edited to add: I do wish you hadn't posted that Malcolm, it'll set him off again. :roll:
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#8 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by mgcjag » Fri May 10, 2019 9:46 am

My 69 2+2 one up..one down...Steve
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#9 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by 288gto » Fri May 10, 2019 11:05 am

malcolm wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 9:26 am
ermmm......... Mine are the same way up! :scratchheadyellow:
Seriously!?

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#10 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by 288gto » Fri May 10, 2019 11:08 am

1954Etype wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 8:39 am
I was sooooo tempted to say that originally they would both have been the same way up just to send Simon into orbit.....
Not nice! :lol: :lol:

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#11 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by malcolm » Fri May 10, 2019 11:12 am

288gto wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 11:05 am
malcolm wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 9:26 am
ermmm......... Mine are the same way up! :scratchheadyellow:
Seriously!?

Simon
Just been out to the garage to check in case I'm losing my mind - but yep, both the same way. Both down.

I'm, sure it must be mine that's wrong, so don't fret! :wow:
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#12 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by chrisfell » Fri May 10, 2019 2:07 pm

Nope!
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Passenger side.

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And driver’s side.
Both down.
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#13 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by malcolm » Fri May 10, 2019 2:12 pm

:dance:
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#14 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by Gfhug » Fri May 10, 2019 2:12 pm

Chris, I think this is where the difference with (some) 2+2s is, Simon's is an OTS and like the FHC the lock is in the handle push button. All helps to confuse :shrug:

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#15 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by chrisfell » Fri May 10, 2019 2:20 pm

I’m happy that mine and Malcolm’s are the same.

And OCD correct.
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#16 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by mgcjag » Fri May 10, 2019 2:43 pm

Hi Simon...the left and right lock barrel have different part numbers...what is the difference....this is a left hand from SNG....why cant you just turn it over for the right ....or possibly modify
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#17 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by 288gto » Fri May 10, 2019 3:44 pm

Cheers Steve,

The handles came from Barratts built up complete with locks, one up one down. My original ones are one up, one down. I’m in the process of stripping the originals down completely and as you say, it might actually be possible to spin the lock internal ( your pic).
Why did Jaguar have one up, one down originally though? There must be a reason surely.

For the 2+2 replies with separate locks, I had hoped the “lock in handle” part of the title would have been a clue. :wink: :lol:

Thanks for the replies anyway. At least it seems for some 2+2 owners at least, all is well and they don’t have this dilemma.

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#18 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by mgcjag » Fri May 10, 2019 3:47 pm

Simon..noooo as i said above my 69 2+2 is like yours lock in handle..one up one down.......how do you get on with the steering wheel ofset from tne drivers seat a bit :bigrin:
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#19 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by Gfhug » Fri May 10, 2019 3:57 pm

Steve, don't! Or nursey will have to find his special straitjacket, the one with the padded hood :evil:
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#20 Re: Door lock in handle slot orientation? Up, Down, Both?

Post by 288gto » Sat May 11, 2019 11:18 am

After a bit of faffing about with an old original pair of handles, it is possible to have both slots in the same direction and the locks / push buttons functioning correctly.
However as certain members have been nasty to me (cough Angus) I'm not going to tell you how to do it. :wink: :lol:

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The mystery still remains as to why they left the factory one up , one down? There has to be a reason.
To add to Steve's post the part numbers for the LH and RH lock barrels are as he says different. BD11999 and BD12000 respectively. However BD12000 on Barratts site is listed as no longer available.
Having dismantled both the original handles, push buttons and barrels, I can't see a difference for the lock barrels. Other parts are clearly handed.

I'm intrigued and reluctant to alter my locks on the car in case there is a genuine reason for Jaguar doing it this way. Someone must know why.

Sleepless in Cheshire,

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