How to post a short video of a rattle?

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#1 How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by Vonkie » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:59 pm

In August, I posted the following in the "Running Reports" forum:

"Another recent phenomenon that is starting to manifest more frequently, if still intermittently: there is what can only be described as a sound as if of a metal spring creaking, manifesting itself with the throttle at times, mainly not at speed and mainly uphill. Every now and then, what is either the exact same noise, or coincidentally something that sounds like it while being something entirely different, would manifest itself on going very slowly, or pulling away, without involving the throttle at all. Someone suggested my description of the former "sounded like the cam chain". Theories welcome. I suppose the only thing for it is to get my chappie to be in the car with me and to hear it when it manifests itself - it was too rare the last time they looked, and they did not know what I was talking about."

After much head-scratching and various interventions, the noise is back. I have a short video taken on my phone on which one can hear it pretty well (especially with good headphones). I don't know how best to post a video on this forum. Simply trying it as an attachment (like for a photo) does not work. I am very curious about this rattle/creak and would love to have the clever boffins on this forum listen to it to help me (and my chappie) out if possible.

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#2 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by rswaffie » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:15 pm

Hi Frank,
I posted a video via YouTube.
If you save the video to ‘My Videos’ in YouTube, copy the link to it via the ‘share’ option, you can then paste the link into your forum post.
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#3 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by Vonkie » Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:48 pm

Ok, here goes: (Many thanks Richard for the You Tube advice):

[Apparently, the video could be viewed only by me - I have tried to make it public in the post below]

Just after I say "dry rattle", if you have sound turned up full, or nice earphones, you can hear the dry rattle quite well for a bit. Like a creaking sound.

Any ideas very heartily appreciated.

Frank
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#4 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by rswaffie » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:01 pm

Hi
I can’t view the video. It may be set to ‘private’ in YouTube.
Yu can change this via the ‘edit’ option and choose ‘public’.
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#5 Posting the video take 2

Post by Vonkie » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:25 pm

And now?

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#6 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by mgcjag » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:29 pm

Hi Frank....yes i can see both.....sounds possibly like tappets....but does it come and go.....does it only happen when driving...what does the engine sound like if your stoped with bonnet up....Steve
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#7 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by Vonkie » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:39 pm

Hi Steve

There are two phenomena. I think they are related. But they are different.

The first is a metal creak, like a metal bedspring creaking, occurring every now and then on a slow turn or on slow pullaway. To the uninitiated (me) that sounds like body, not engine.

The second is this weird rattle (on the video), which sounds like the creak sped up, or like an old dotmatrix printer, which occurs intermittently, sometimes not at all for quite a while, at a certain throttle opening, mainly when going uphill. Given how it manifests, this feels like engine, not body. At times, on high revs, one needs to listen carefully to hear it. At other times, it is very clear, like in the video, and manifests mainly towards the top of the throttle uphill. Opening or closing the throttle with foot pedal tends to make it come and go then - so it occurs at a certain throttle opening.

I have not managed to re-create the rattle/creak on idle, or on revving while standing still, but I can try again, now that the rattle seems more pronounced when it manifests.

The last time I tried to demonstrate it to the mechanic, we drove around like idiots for 50 miles without any manifestation.
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#8 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by mgcjag » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:02 pm

Hi Frank....check the engine/gearbox mounts if there is too much movement in them it could cause things to rattle like exhaust on bodywork or carbs touching frames etc...Steve
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#9 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by Vonkie » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:05 pm

Yes I think mountings need attention, as it rings a bell that mounting was sagging a bit on one side.

That may well be it.

Let’s see! Any further ideas welcome and appreciated. Won’t be able to have her attended to until the New Year.

Will report back.
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#10 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by christopher storey » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:03 pm

I can't hear any mechanical rattle at all. What I can hear is a squeak or creak of the type which quite often develops with polyurethane bushes in suspension joints . A spot of lubrication with water and detergent might help with this

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#11 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by Vonkie » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:08 pm

The suspension joint theory is also promising, especially given the creaky metal spring sound on slow turn.
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#12 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by chrisfell » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:23 pm

I’ve heard a similar dry rattle, almost a thudding sound before. In my case I’d over tightened and stressed the rear stabiliser.
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#13 Re: How to post a short video of a rattle?

Post by nefematic » Mon Dec 30, 2019 12:09 pm

Right around @0.15 - 0.17 your bonnet seems to be rattling in tune with the noise? Are your bonnet fasteners tight?
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