E type Battery - modern alternative
#1 E type Battery - modern alternative
There have been several recent posts on potential E Type battery failings or issues. Although this easy solution has been covered before in other associated posts - such as placing modern batteries inside old redundant battery cases - I just wanted to provide a simple comprehensive reference post.
I recently had to find a suitable battery for my Series 1 FHC. Having been a long time advocate for a traditional battery made by Lincon in Essex - posting first about this battery back in 2008, I finally now accept this form of battery - although looking the part - has limitations and long term failings after my third Lincon in nearly 20 years finally bit the dust this month. A search for a simple replacement began.
I use the SNG Barratt metal top mount and lower plastic tray. These internally measure 250mm long by 170mm wide, so despite what some battery suppliers may state, I found in reality the batteries measured differently, so armed with the mounts I visited several local motor factors to actually check the fitment.
Halfords recommend two batteries - their own HB072 and a Yuasa HSB072. From the dimensions on the Halfords website at 261mm long, by 175mm wide, by 220mm deep - which if correct would clearly not fit my mountings. The HB072 is a 68AH 550CCA battery, but I think the reason Halfords recommended it was that the terminals were in the “correct” positions with the Negative post on the left looking directly at it, but positioned at the back edge of the battery.
It will come as no surprise to some on here that the solution was the Halfords HB030 which at nearly £20 cheaper at £80,(June 2021), was identical in the 68AH 550CCA specification, but with the terminals located on the front edge of the battery. Interestingly the Halfords website dimensions for the HB030 were 258mm long, by 173mm wide, by 225 deep, but were actually 255mm long, by 170mm wide, by 200 deep - and important gain in having a lower height under the metal heater motor casing.
The other gain is the overall dimensions are for the the top “collar”, so my top mount fits easily over the top of the battery above this collar.
When mounting, I prefer the terminals on the outside side of the battery as I have had a few fraught moments lifting the metal top mount over the terminals when on the rear of the battery. As the terminals on the HB030 are getting close to the rubber insulation on the top mount, I used “Battery Terminal Adapters” to give clearance, plus doubled up on the Positive cables as I use a hefty tractor Earth lead. On the Earth terminal, to ensure that the mounting nut doesn’t turn on the rubber insulation on the top mount - not an electrical issue, more a cosmetic matter - I use an Allen screw head, so there is no direct contact with rubber.
Some photos of the comparison to the Lincon, the cracking of the Lincon over time and the final installation, cleared of any modern labels.
Cheers,
Dave
I recently had to find a suitable battery for my Series 1 FHC. Having been a long time advocate for a traditional battery made by Lincon in Essex - posting first about this battery back in 2008, I finally now accept this form of battery - although looking the part - has limitations and long term failings after my third Lincon in nearly 20 years finally bit the dust this month. A search for a simple replacement began.
I use the SNG Barratt metal top mount and lower plastic tray. These internally measure 250mm long by 170mm wide, so despite what some battery suppliers may state, I found in reality the batteries measured differently, so armed with the mounts I visited several local motor factors to actually check the fitment.
Halfords recommend two batteries - their own HB072 and a Yuasa HSB072. From the dimensions on the Halfords website at 261mm long, by 175mm wide, by 220mm deep - which if correct would clearly not fit my mountings. The HB072 is a 68AH 550CCA battery, but I think the reason Halfords recommended it was that the terminals were in the “correct” positions with the Negative post on the left looking directly at it, but positioned at the back edge of the battery.
It will come as no surprise to some on here that the solution was the Halfords HB030 which at nearly £20 cheaper at £80,(June 2021), was identical in the 68AH 550CCA specification, but with the terminals located on the front edge of the battery. Interestingly the Halfords website dimensions for the HB030 were 258mm long, by 173mm wide, by 225 deep, but were actually 255mm long, by 170mm wide, by 200 deep - and important gain in having a lower height under the metal heater motor casing.
The other gain is the overall dimensions are for the the top “collar”, so my top mount fits easily over the top of the battery above this collar.
When mounting, I prefer the terminals on the outside side of the battery as I have had a few fraught moments lifting the metal top mount over the terminals when on the rear of the battery. As the terminals on the HB030 are getting close to the rubber insulation on the top mount, I used “Battery Terminal Adapters” to give clearance, plus doubled up on the Positive cables as I use a hefty tractor Earth lead. On the Earth terminal, to ensure that the mounting nut doesn’t turn on the rubber insulation on the top mount - not an electrical issue, more a cosmetic matter - I use an Allen screw head, so there is no direct contact with rubber.
Some photos of the comparison to the Lincon, the cracking of the Lincon over time and the final installation, cleared of any modern labels.
Cheers,
Dave
Dave Rose
1967 Series 1 4.2 FHC
1967 Series 1 4.2 FHC
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#2 Re: E type Battery - modern alternative
Here is my Halford HB030 battery:
The handles are still usable. At some point I should get a pair of 'helmet' cables but at £80/set it is not high on my to do list!
More info in this thread: http://forum.etypeuk.com/viewtopic.php?p=104236#p104236
The handles are still usable. At some point I should get a pair of 'helmet' cables but at £80/set it is not high on my to do list!
More info in this thread: http://forum.etypeuk.com/viewtopic.php?p=104236#p104236
David Jones
S1 OTS OSB; S1 FHC ODB
1997 Porsche 911 Guards Red
Add your E-Type to our World Map: http://forum.etypeuk.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1810
S1 OTS OSB; S1 FHC ODB
1997 Porsche 911 Guards Red
Add your E-Type to our World Map: http://forum.etypeuk.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1810
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now £120!! up 50% in 18 months!
'67 S1.5 FHC, manual, maroon with black interior. Originally exported to Arizona but 'repatriated' in '89. Since converted to RHD and triple SUs.
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Bought one 2 weeks ago at £89 with their £10 off offer - maybe that ended in Jan though 🫤
Darryl
1964 S1 FHC 3.8 opalescent maroon
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Trade Cards are an option here, if you meet the criteria.
https://www.halfords.com/motoring/trade ... gn-up.html
https://www.halfords.com/motoring/trade ... gn-up.html
Steve
1965 S1 4.2 FHC (early)
1965 S1 4.2 FHC (early)
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#6 Re: E type Battery - modern alternative
Or join the JDC (Jaguar Drivers' Club) and you get a Halfords Trade card
Malcolm
I only fit in a 2+2, so got one!
1969 Series 2 2+2
2009 Jaguar XF-S
2015 F Type V6 S
I only fit in a 2+2, so got one!
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2015 F Type V6 S
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#7 Re: E type Battery - modern alternative
Presumably any of these would also be suitable?:-
https://www.tayna.co.uk/Car-Batteries-S ... &A-5=IMG-3
https://www.tayna.co.uk/Car-Batteries-S ... &A-5=IMG-3
'67 S1.5 FHC, manual, maroon with black interior. Originally exported to Arizona but 'repatriated' in '89. Since converted to RHD and triple SUs.
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#8 Re: E type Battery - modern alternative
They will all start your car.....just depends what fit and look you want......Steve
Steve
69 S2 2+2 (just sold) ..Realm C type replica, 1960 xk150fhc
69 S2 2+2 (just sold) ..Realm C type replica, 1960 xk150fhc
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#9 Re: E type Battery - modern alternative
They will all fit AND start the engine. After that I’m happy !
'67 S1.5 FHC, manual, maroon with black interior. Originally exported to Arizona but 'repatriated' in '89. Since converted to RHD and triple SUs.
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