Bolt specs and sizes
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#21 Bolt Specs and Sizes
Mikepday -
Try Chuck Hadley at Monocoque-Metalworks (USA).
http://www.monocoque-metalworks.com/mai ... bolt-kits/
Chuck is superb. He offers the following --
E-Type Frame Rail Assembly Bolt Kit ? $52.75. This kit includes all of the bolts, washers, and nylon lock nuts necessary to bolt the frame rails to the car, and the picture frame and bonnet carrier bracket to the frame rails. It also includes the large bolts that attach the lower, inner, rear sections of the frame rails to the main chassis runners under the floor, and attach the torsion bar reaction plate to the frame rails ? This kit is COMPLETE! Fine-thread, gold-zinc and black-anodized, and GRADE 8 ? SUPER STRONG!!!
Try Chuck Hadley at Monocoque-Metalworks (USA).
http://www.monocoque-metalworks.com/mai ... bolt-kits/
Chuck is superb. He offers the following --
E-Type Frame Rail Assembly Bolt Kit ? $52.75. This kit includes all of the bolts, washers, and nylon lock nuts necessary to bolt the frame rails to the car, and the picture frame and bonnet carrier bracket to the frame rails. It also includes the large bolts that attach the lower, inner, rear sections of the frame rails to the main chassis runners under the floor, and attach the torsion bar reaction plate to the frame rails ? This kit is COMPLETE! Fine-thread, gold-zinc and black-anodized, and GRADE 8 ? SUPER STRONG!!!
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Hi Bud...your a bit late.....the question you answered was posted back in 2008...but it may be usefull if someone is still looking
Steve
69 S2 2+2 (just sold) ..Realm C type replica, 1960 xk150fhc
69 S2 2+2 (just sold) ..Realm C type replica, 1960 xk150fhc
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#23
Steve - and anyone else in the same position - just for info, Robey's no longer stock any of these items - any of the BD27546-type bolt/setscrew, etc.
I am told the difference in the "/3" or "/4" - or in the case of the one I needed, the "/6" - is the length - but I am a little dubious that this is the complete story, as the "/4" on Robey's site is described as a countersunk screw - the seat slide and the (mullered!!) bolt that came out of mine suggest that it should be a bolt-head rather than a countersunk screw!
But in any event, Robey's, SNGB, and Manners all say the item has been deleted, they cannot get stock and cannot suggest an alternative. I'll manage for now, but will keep looking for a suitable alternative.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
I am told the difference in the "/3" or "/4" - or in the case of the one I needed, the "/6" - is the length - but I am a little dubious that this is the complete story, as the "/4" on Robey's site is described as a countersunk screw - the seat slide and the (mullered!!) bolt that came out of mine suggest that it should be a bolt-head rather than a countersunk screw!
But in any event, Robey's, SNGB, and Manners all say the item has been deleted, they cannot get stock and cannot suggest an alternative. I'll manage for now, but will keep looking for a suitable alternative.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
1967 Series 1 OTS
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Hi Stuart....if you know what you want this place probably has it...all the nuts/bolst you could possibly need http://www.namrick.co.uk
Steve
69 S2 2+2 (just sold) ..Realm C type replica, 1960 xk150fhc
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#25
Hi - just to update this - used Namrick as suggested - 1/4" UNF at 1+1/14" long, fitted just fine. The service from Namrick was also speedy - didn't want to use their internet site to order as it didn't show as secure - but their service via the 'phone was excellent. Thanks for the tip, Steve.
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#26 What sizes are used where?
Hi Everyone
My big problem is that I just got an unrestored car (S2 OTS) that has every conceivable type of screw fitted, usually on the same part. It's also missing a few bits like the fixings for the door striker.
I've got all the manuals but nowhere does any of them say that this door trim or that fixing uses a screw size xxx. Is there anywhere a comprehensive list of what screw nut and bolt is used for each piece. If I had this I could buy in bulk, rather than buying piecemeal from SNG.
Any help appreciated
John
My big problem is that I just got an unrestored car (S2 OTS) that has every conceivable type of screw fitted, usually on the same part. It's also missing a few bits like the fixings for the door striker.
I've got all the manuals but nowhere does any of them say that this door trim or that fixing uses a screw size xxx. Is there anywhere a comprehensive list of what screw nut and bolt is used for each piece. If I had this I could buy in bulk, rather than buying piecemeal from SNG.
Any help appreciated
John
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John
The best advice is to go on the Namrick website and buy in bulk all conceivable sizes you will need. Then buy compartmented trays to store them in and label up before starting work. It makes the whole job so much easier.
The SCParts catalogue lists the various sizes as do other places.
The main sizes needed are;
1/4 UNF set screws in all lengths up to about 2"
1/4 UNF bolts in all lengths from 1" to 3 1/2"
5/16 UNF set screws in all lengths up to about 2"
5/16 UNF bolts in all lengths from 1" to 3"
100 Nuts, normal and nyloc in all sizes
3/8 UNF you dont need that many so just get a few of each size
10 UNF get a few of every length, nuts and washers to suit
Mixed flat washer pack
Mixed serated washer pack
Mixed spring washer pack
Order bigger bolts/set screws and nuts to suit each task, they are usually suspension bolts which if you can re-use or rechrome is sometimes OK if they are OK. If you order from Namrick you get a day or two later anyway. You will save lots of money and have the convenience of having nuts/bolts when you need them.
Ian
The best advice is to go on the Namrick website and buy in bulk all conceivable sizes you will need. Then buy compartmented trays to store them in and label up before starting work. It makes the whole job so much easier.
The SCParts catalogue lists the various sizes as do other places.
The main sizes needed are;
1/4 UNF set screws in all lengths up to about 2"
1/4 UNF bolts in all lengths from 1" to 3 1/2"
5/16 UNF set screws in all lengths up to about 2"
5/16 UNF bolts in all lengths from 1" to 3"
100 Nuts, normal and nyloc in all sizes
3/8 UNF you dont need that many so just get a few of each size
10 UNF get a few of every length, nuts and washers to suit
Mixed flat washer pack
Mixed serated washer pack
Mixed spring washer pack
Order bigger bolts/set screws and nuts to suit each task, they are usually suspension bolts which if you can re-use or rechrome is sometimes OK if they are OK. If you order from Namrick you get a day or two later anyway. You will save lots of money and have the convenience of having nuts/bolts when you need them.
Ian
64 S1 4.2 OTS 1E10012 73 S3 2+2 manual 2013 V6 F type OTS
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No....there is no easy list showing what fixing fits what parts....you need to find the part no for each one ......in the knowledge base section parts list for each model.......sent you a Pm.. Steve
Steve
69 S2 2+2 (just sold) ..Realm C type replica, 1960 xk150fhc
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Ian
Thanks for the info, it gives me somewhere to start.
John
Thanks for the info, it gives me somewhere to start.
John
1969 S2 OTS
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Hi David,Heuer wrote:Unfortunately only some fixing part numbers are made up of the code whilst others, including this bolt, just have regular BD. or C. numbers. If you find a part number that looks something like UCN113/L then the decoder in the Forum KB will tell you the exact specification.
Jaguar Nuts, Bolts and Fasteners specs: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/849 ... teners.pdf
Dropbox returns a 404 error for the quoted address. Can you please check and re-post if necessary?
Thanks
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Steve
S 1.5 FHC
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#31 Re: Bolt specs and sizes
The link in the Forum KB is correct as I changed them all after Dropbox altered their terms of service but I could not go and search for individual posts that reference them. Link is now:
Jaguar Nuts, Bolts and Fasteners specs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vbkgbwl4b3tyc ... s.pdf?dl=1
I have changed it in the post on page 1 of this thread as well.
Jaguar Nuts, Bolts and Fasteners specs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vbkgbwl4b3tyc ... s.pdf?dl=1
I have changed it in the post on page 1 of this thread as well.
David Jones
S1 OTS OSB; S1 FHC ODB
1997 Porsche 911 Guards Red
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S1 OTS OSB; S1 FHC ODB
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#32 Re: Bolt specs and sizes
Herzeg,
The door striker has two countersunk [allen head] screws that pass through the door frame and screw into the door lock. They are 3/16" Diameter. The thread is Unified Coarse [UNC]. ALSO the two slotted flat head screws that hold the dook lock to the door frame are also 3/16" UNC
It can take a while to understand what bolts are used where on an E type, however as you get further into the project I hope you can start to see the light at end of tunnel. Thread form on the E is virtually UNF [Fine] or UNC [Coarse] The size is the diameter, ie someting that looks like 3/8" and is Fine is....... a 3/8" UNF etc.
hope this helps
The door striker has two countersunk [allen head] screws that pass through the door frame and screw into the door lock. They are 3/16" Diameter. The thread is Unified Coarse [UNC]. ALSO the two slotted flat head screws that hold the dook lock to the door frame are also 3/16" UNC
It can take a while to understand what bolts are used where on an E type, however as you get further into the project I hope you can start to see the light at end of tunnel. Thread form on the E is virtually UNF [Fine] or UNC [Coarse] The size is the diameter, ie someting that looks like 3/8" and is Fine is....... a 3/8" UNF etc.
hope this helps
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Hi Robsan
Thanks for the info. I did get a major refurb and upgrade over the winter so probably those parts will have been replaced but i will be digging around over the spring and summer weeding out the wrong and missing parts.
John
Thanks for the info. I did get a major refurb and upgrade over the winter so probably those parts will have been replaced but i will be digging around over the spring and summer weeding out the wrong and missing parts.
John
1969 S2 OTS
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#34 Re: Bolt specs and sizes
Thanks for the link update, David
Regards
Steve
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#35 Re: Bolt specs and sizes
The full car bolt kit from monocoque metalwork looks like money well spent particularly if you have the wrong bolts in some areas. I guess the postage and import duties on 4kg of hardware from the states won't be cheap though. I'm probably going to bite the bullet and buy this kit unless there's a similar one available this side of the pond but judging by the previous comments it looks unlikely.
Phil
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#36 Re: Bolt specs and sizes
I bought their ‘Monster’ set - pretty much everything to fasten, the frames, suspension, exhaust, engine mounts, door hinges etc etc. It was a bit overkill as I have re-used many of the original Bees & Gkn items where safe to do so but no harm in having a few spares for future use!
Richard
Previous owner and restorer of a S1 3.8 FHC Opalescent Golden Sand with Tan Trim 889504 (now sold and headed for Athens)
Previous owner and restorer of a S1 3.8 FHC Opalescent Golden Sand with Tan Trim 889504 (now sold and headed for Athens)
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#37 Re: Bolt specs and sizes
Would 100% support the Namrick recommendation - always very helpful and very fast supply.
Purchased a 'thread detective' from Thomas Smith which has been invaluable throughout the winter work. Pricey but saved me loads of time where I wanted to replace specific bolts with upgrades (SS or Chrome).
http://www.thomassmithfasteners.com/thr ... ctive.html
Thomas Smith also very good for mixed boxes of Stainless Steel sets.
cheers
Ash
Purchased a 'thread detective' from Thomas Smith which has been invaluable throughout the winter work. Pricey but saved me loads of time where I wanted to replace specific bolts with upgrades (SS or Chrome).
http://www.thomassmithfasteners.com/thr ... ctive.html
Thomas Smith also very good for mixed boxes of Stainless Steel sets.
cheers
Ash
Series 2 FHC 1970
1R 20607
1R 20607
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#38 Re: Bolt specs and sizes
Stainless steel and chrome as upgrades? Cosmetically, maybe. Most times though, weaker and more prone to failure.
Regards
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Stuart
If you can't make it work, make it complicated!
'62 FHC - Nearing completion
'69 Daimler 420 Sovereign
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If you can't make it work, make it complicated!
'62 FHC - Nearing completion
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#39 Re: Bolt specs and sizes
Yes Stuart, definitely cosmetic 'upgrades' only. Clumsy wording.
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