‘68 2+2 Re-trim

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#1 ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by H7OB » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:37 pm

Afternoon all,

I’m just starting a re-trim of my recent-ish acquisition. At some point it’s all been trimmed in PVC (no leather) in a non-original colour so I really want to take it back to what’s on the heritage certificate. Unusually it was Opalescent Silver Blue with a black interior so must have been a special order.

I’ve chosen not to go via the usual route of suppliers for a couple of reasons: I’m lucky enough to have a couple of very kind and useful friends! One has an automotive design and engineering business and helped me source 3 beautiful, soft and fragrant, semi-aniline leather hides. The other is a supert talented trimmer with a mass of automotive trimming experience who has offered to trim my seats, console and rear quarters. I’ve just gone through lots of samples of PVC for the non leather areas and managed to find a good match for grain and gloss level to the hides. I intend to trim these simpler PVC areas so I can at least say I’ve played a small part in the re-trim!

My first question is about the door panels, boot boards, boot lid trim etc. Should this be PVC / vinyl straight onto the panel or is there any soft foam inter-layer? Currently the car has foam under most of these but it does seem to look a bit ‘inflated’. I’ve tried searching but not found anything regarding this.

Any knowledge greatly appreciated! I’ll post pics as things develop....
Paul
'68 Series 1.25 2+2

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#2 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by mgcjag » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:55 pm

Hi Paul...fully retrimed my 69 2+2 last year...door cards etc have 3mm scrim (foam) under them...ask your trimmer about fixing.....lightly spray glue the scrim to the door card but dont glue the vinyl to the scrim.....just staple on reverse side....if you glue then when u press on the vinyl the scrim compresses and the top layer of glue sticks to the bottom and you get an uneven surface.... Steve

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#3 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by H7OB » Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:15 pm

Hi Steve,
Thank you for the feedback. The car looks fabulous btw! So, did you just use scrim on the doors and then trim straight to the panel with the other parts?
Paul
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#4 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by mgcjag » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:07 pm

Hi Phil there is scrim under almost everything....the door caps have slightyl thicker.......door sills use a denser type foam.....cant rails not for the faint hearted.....they have a hard foam....but much easyer to retrim by leaving existing vinyl in place and covering over it...can give more details when you come to do them...wheel arch covers are made as a complete unit with piping and slightly thicker foam sewn in.....most other piping i made up fairly easy , plastic piping from trimmers covered in vinyl.......if you need to chat then pm your phone number and can talk it over.....but if you have a trimer doing most for you i assume he will take the lead.... Steve
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#5 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by paulsco » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:20 am

Hi Paul,

I am planning to do much the same as you, but my car has been 'modified' and although much of the original panels have been used, they have been re-covered with what I would consider to be the wrong vinyl.

Can you let me know exactly what vinyl you are using and the supplier?

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#6 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by H7OB » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:01 pm

Hi Paul.

I’ve ordered the vinyl from here

http://www.as-trim.co.uk/index.php?main ... cts_id=850

This was mainly because it was the best match to the leather. I will still need the scrim etc. I’ve not yet received the vinyl so hoping it’s as good a match as the sample. Will let you know. I know it’s not completely original but I might also consider trimming doors and or console in leather if I’ve enough left after the seats. It’s such lovely stuff it would be a shame not to!
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#7 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by mgcjag » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:20 pm

Contact BAS, Aldridge, Skinners etc.....well known trimmers many on the forum use them.....will send you samples of leather, vinyl,Hardura, carpet...they will sell just the material, or pre cut, etc.... Steve
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#8 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by MarkRado » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:53 pm

I ordered from Eric Suffolk; although together with a trim kit. I did many bits myself and some parts of the kit a second time :sad: That is part of learning by doing - order much more material than calculated.
Eric supplied all the different materials in matching colour and grain; although not original, it looks fabolous. Moreover, Eric is always very helpful and patient with all the questions of an amateur.
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#9 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by paulsco » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:07 pm

Thanks Paul and others for your advice.
I was avoiding the usual’s because of the possible mark up on their vinyl. I was thinking I might use Woolies vinyls.
https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/category/80/vinyls
My interior is black, so no colour matching problems, just need to know what texture is most original (the same texture throughout I am assuming).
I used one of their vinyls on my dash.
https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/ ... nide-black
(I think it was this one) which was pretty much identical to the original.
I may buy some of the coverings, for example the wheel arches and head liner, but at this stage I plan to make new boards where necessary and recover the rest.

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#10 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by H7OB » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:49 pm

Well, it might not look like much but its officially started!

My trimmer buddy has taken the seats and hides. It will be as and when he can do them but that will give me chance to sort the mechanical bits, new seat belts and the rest of the trim.

Ive started the boot boards. All but one are re usable. Ive also re used the luggage strips but have replaced the rubbers as these were completely brittle and crumbled as I removed them. Im using 3mm neoprene foam rather than sponge as I prefer the way it keeps its shape rather than 'pillowing' like the old sponge was. (Does that sound a bit obsessive?!)

Anyway, Ive managed to set myself up in a space inside the house and Im quite enjoying myself!


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#11 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by H7OB » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:30 pm

Well, progress has been steady you might say, an engine rebuild along the way, but the seats arrived today. As mentioned, a friend of mine is a recently retired OEM seat specialist. He kindly agreed to take mine on and the results are fabulous. He started with the existing covers which were stripped and new patterns made and improved. He has also covered the frames with foam to leave completely smooth surfaces on the backs of the squabs. His attention to detail is obsessive to the point of every flute being exactly the same width with cushions aligning to squabs perfectly. I was also lucky enough to have a mate who got me some beautiful, semi aniline leather which is super soft and smells terrific. The heat is on now on for me to make the easier stuff look as good!
V happy!


PS can anyone suggest a source for replacement seat mech covers??

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#12 Re: ‘68 2+2 Re-trim

Post by 265bhp » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:48 pm

They look great..!
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