Series 1 2+2 values

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#21 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by erictheetype99 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:54 pm

As a series 1.5 2+2 FHC owner I also struggle to value my car for insurance purposes. I try to keep an eye on values but its very difficult. You certainly can't go by prices advertised - how many of us paid the price our car was advertised for? Advertised prices most frequently are,shall we say at best ambitious, at worst deluded?
With regard to identifying a S 1.5, from my observations its more complicated. The spec I've seen in this chain is certainly true for cars sold in the US, but for UK series 1.5 cars.............. open headlights - yes, twin cooling fans - no, ribbed cam covers - no and toggle dash switches not rockers. Also obviously thriple SUs not twin Strombergs. No doubt there are many other differences between the US spec and UK spec series 1.5 cars, these are just what I've consistently spotted.

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#22 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by dereksharpuk » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:37 am

As stated here, prices are all over the place. I suppose that is partly due to the fact that there are many variants of E Type for sale, from flat floor Roadster to automatic Series 3 2+2. I'm told by one dealer recently, rather rudely, that E Type values have 'gone down the toilet'. Whereas I don't 100% agree with him, they do seem to have dropped back a bit lately. What valuation would learned owners put on a mint, nut & bolt 2018 full professional total restoration of a signal red Series 2 Roadster, matching numbers, heritage certificate, RHD?
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#23 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by chrisfell » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:21 pm

The biggest variable in E-Type prices is the premium that some retailers command on their cars. Eagle E-Types for example, command stratospheric prices.
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#24 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by dereksharpuk » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:32 pm

So what is a good price for private sale for a series 2 roadster in concours condition, rebuilt 100 miles ago? I bet the answers range from £80K to £195K. I don't include those Eagle prices. I suppose at the end of the day it is down to what someone will pay, so that means don't start low.
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#25 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by mgcjag » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:07 pm

Hi Derek.....is it your S2 that your trying to find a value for to sell....best way is to post some photos and ask for advice....but you say concours...it depends whose looking at ....If you dont post photos then its just a guessing game.......be honest with yourself and look at the current market and whats out there for sale.....how much would you pay for it... Steve
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#26 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by erictheetype99 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:54 am

Hello all,

I have a S1.5 2+2 daily driver - solid but slightly scruffy but new interior and 5 speed box conversion. I've based my value, as another contributor suggested, on what I think it would cost me to replace in the similar condition - I estimate c£40k.

Series 1.5 cars - to throw a spanner in the works - I note there is a big differences between UK and export S1.5 cars. UK cars continued with single fan and toggle switches and smooth cam covers whereas export S1.5 had twin fans and rocker switches and many had ribbed cam covers. Just an observation.

On a separate note, does anyone have external contact details for MarekH - looking to see if I can source some S1 reversing light LED inserts he mentioned (and appeared to be supplying) in posts last year (2017). I've sent him a Q via the internal messaging on this forum, but no response as yet?

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Mark Pascoe (Hampshire UK)

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#27 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by dereksharpuk » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:02 am

mgcjag wrote:
Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:07 pm
Hi Derek.....is it your S2 that your trying to find a value for to sell....best way is to post some photos and ask for advice....but you say concours...it depends whose looking at ....If you dont post photos then its just a guessing game.......be honest with yourself and look at the current market and whats out there for sale.....how much would you pay for it... Steve
Hi Steve, I have now edited my original post with a picture of the 100 page hardback book written about the restoration. More pics are on PistonHeads.
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#28 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by mystery type » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:04 pm

1967 S1 2+2

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#29 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by malcolm » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:17 pm

Nice car, but still seems a bit rich at £120k
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#30 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by chrisfell » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:31 pm

This car has been for sale before. I don’t think it will sell to anyone who knows E-Types. Not at twice the value of a properly concours car (ie an original U.K. car with no modifications and a full history folder).

I thought I’d check the video of the engine being tested as mentioned in the description. No dice. Hmmmm!

I wish the seller good luck and hope the buyer doesn’t hope to resell any time soon. I’m sure they’ll feel sick if they do.
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#31 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by Brucey » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:39 pm

I agree with Chris re correct nomenclature etc. There is such a wealth of information out there that I am still surprised that owners do not know the difference between the various models!

Regarding value: obviously a LHD car is worth less than a RHD in the UK. Different if being sold in a LHD market. It would be interesting to know if the carbs. were a retro fit or original. I have seen some LHD none USA spec. cars on triple SUs.

In my view £50k value if the paperwork is all there and correct.

Not a lot about at the moment!

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#32 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by MCY44H » Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:04 am

Yes, there's not much about. Tracking the auction houses, I found only 6 were sold this year so far (2 UK, 3 US and 1 AUT) versus 9 last year (5 UK, 4 US). Prices this year have been in a range £29-42K with a median of £36k. That said, these were not pristine examples.

Brucey's comment about LHD/RHD intrigued me so I ran the numbers through the database. Of the 40 S1 2+2 auction sales I have since 2012, the LHD prices in the UK run on average at about 11% less than the RHD examples.

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#33 Re: Series 1 2+2 values

Post by tim wood » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:57 pm

I sold my series 1 2+2 last autumn via car and classic.
Placed the advert at 7pm and had to turn the phone off at 10pm.
Had a number of viewings but sold to the first guy at the asking price of mid 40s. The car was excellent bodily and even more so mechanically. A genuine RHD car. Possibly needed repainting - Which the new owner did but otherwise nothing needed. Structurally very good.

Maybe I could have asked for more but needed the funds to move to my OTS purchase.
Series 1 FHC purchased 40 years ago when I was young. Sold
Series 1 2+2 when the kids were small now sold
Series 1.5 OTS in opalescent maroon, Californian car. My retirement present.

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