Safety belts

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#1 Safety belts

Post by Lual » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:27 pm

Hi

I want to install safety belts in a S1 fhc.

I assume there are belts with two or three “anchor points” (I ignore the proper english term for this).

Has anybody any view (installation, fitting, looking, etc) on two versus three points, besides that a three points is probably much safer in case of front collision?

Thanks a lot

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#2 Re: Safety belts

Post by abowie » Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:34 pm

3 point anchor are a miminum.
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#3 Re: Safety belts

Post by christopher storey » Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:31 am

Only a lap/diagonal , either fixed or inertia reel type, is suitable . The FHC is already equipped with mounting points , a lower one on the B post , with the reel being mounted with a special bracket to the rear point which is just behind the opening quarter window

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#4 Re: Safety belts

Post by Lual » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:07 pm

Thank you to both

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#5 Re: Safety belts

Post by Robbiee » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:21 pm

Hi
My engineers at Butlins Classic Cars designed a curved metal bracket (trimmed out in picture) for the inertia reel
It keeps it just below the window line and is very comfortable over my shoulder.
It pivots at the rear at one point
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#6 Re: Safety belts

Post by peters3103 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 2:01 pm

That’s a very neat solution. My 61 has no mounting points as far as I’m aware. What are my options for seatbelt installation?

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#7 Re: Safety belts

Post by Robbiee » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:52 pm

Hi
This is a 62 fhc so we just drilled a point at the back below window level. It’s covered with a black plastic top in the picture. It pivots up and down a little
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#8 Re: Safety belts

Post by mgcjag » Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:37 pm

Also see Clayton Classics for extension brackets http://claytonclassics.co.uk/parts-upgr ... -seatbelts
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#9 Re: Safety belts

Post by peters3103 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:31 pm

Thanks gents.
Robbie, did your 62 not have factory seat belt mounting points? If not, have you had to reinforce behind the 3 drilled holes for each belt? Presumably the mounting hole for the buckle is in the side of the transmission tunnel and the lower sash mount is in the sill?

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#10 Re: Safety belts

Post by Robbiee » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:06 pm

Hi Pete
No..I reinforced the mounting points on the transmission tunnel and sill
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#11 Re: Safety belts

Post by peters3103 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:10 pm

Presumably the top mounting where your neat trimmed bracket is bolted is reinforced as well?
Is it steel plate you used for reinforcement?

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#12 Re: Safety belts

Post by Robbiee » Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:52 am

Hi
Correct...steel plate drilled and tapped
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#13 Re: Safety belts

Post by peters3103 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:29 pm

Cheers Robbie
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#14 Re: Safety belts

Post by peters3103 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:46 pm

Just thinking about this, is the thread depth on a steel reinforcement plate drilled and tapped sufficient without using a nut on the back?

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#15 Re: Safety belts

Post by Robbiee » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:16 pm

Nope
I put a nut on the back(welded)
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#16 Re: Safety belts

Post by Polse7317 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:30 am

Hello everyone ! y'll see above what i have fitted in my FHC :
didn't want to see the big reel . So i made a aluminium part which is fixed through the Wheel arch with a inox thick blade Inside the Wheel arch . in that position the reel is less visible
The belt is not too much tightened along the shoulder :salute:
In this position the reel is stricly vertical, so the belt can be pulled without any problem.
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#17 Re: Safety belts

Post by peters3103 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:58 am

That also looks very neat Yves, nice job. What brand of inertia belt did you use?
I’d prefer the look of period static belts in my 61 but I know they’re not as comfortable or convenient to use.

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#18 Re: Safety belts

Post by Polse7317 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:33 am

The belts with the cat on the lock come from CMC. .....not cheap. :shock:
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#19 Re: Safety belts

Post by peters3103 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:56 pm

SNGB list a period style, 3 point static seat belt kit complete with Jaguar leaper on the aircraft style buckle. Has anyone bought/used these? Are they the same as the QuickfitSBS item? Pricing is similar but SNG’s delivery cost to me in Aus is much cheaper. (£27 v £100)
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#20 Re: Safety belts

Post by christopher storey » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:51 am

Static belts will make your life very difficult at T junctions etc, because they make it very difficult to lean forward . When I had them, I had to slip the diagonal off my shoulder each time and it was both inconvenient and uncomfortable. Reels are far more practical in an E

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