Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
#1 Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Evening all
The shallow U shaped mild steel channel section which is fixed by rivets to the door and quarter light window opening....and which receives the rubber weather trim....to be precise
Should I be using the rivets with the rivet gun held inside the cabin or from the outside....I cannot recall how they were originally
Thanks all
Jonathan
The shallow U shaped mild steel channel section which is fixed by rivets to the door and quarter light window opening....and which receives the rubber weather trim....to be precise
Should I be using the rivets with the rivet gun held inside the cabin or from the outside....I cannot recall how they were originally
Thanks all
Jonathan
1963 3.8 FHC ..now finished …………….
1974 2.7 Carrera now as an RS Touring
1974 2.7 Carrera now as an RS Touring
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#2 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
They are riveted from the outside but a lot of people don't actually fit them, preferring just to glue the rubber directly to the bodywork.
Andrew.
881824, 1E21538. 889457. 1961 4.3l Mk2. 1975 XJS. 1962 MGB
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881824, 1E21538. 889457. 1961 4.3l Mk2. 1975 XJS. 1962 MGB
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Adelaide, Australia
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#3 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Thanks Andrew
I can imagine why folks don’t bother...but as I have prepped them and drilled them I shall continue...!.. they sure would be easier to rivet from inside..but I somehow suspected that wouldn’t be right]
All the best
J
I can imagine why folks don’t bother...but as I have prepped them and drilled them I shall continue...!.. they sure would be easier to rivet from inside..but I somehow suspected that wouldn’t be right]
All the best
J
1963 3.8 FHC ..now finished …………….
1974 2.7 Carrera now as an RS Touring
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#4 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Hi,
The head of the rivet is flat when you apply it by the outside. The seal can be properly mount.
If you do this by the inside, the ball of the rivet is in the U shap so the seal is impossible to fit.
Mich
The head of the rivet is flat when you apply it by the outside. The seal can be properly mount.
If you do this by the inside, the ball of the rivet is in the U shap so the seal is impossible to fit.
Mich
Michel
1965 E Type FHC - On the road / 1963 E Type OTS - on the road after Angus Restoration
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#5 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Hi Jonathan, don't forget that some of the holes are for the self tapping screws that secure the can trail trim inside. ... So don't go and put rivets in all of them.
Jeremy
1967 S1 4.2 FHC
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#6 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
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#7 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Hi Jonathan,
It is also worth noting how far the back of the pop rivets stick out at the inside of the car, as they can interfere with the fit of the cant rails.
I had to flatten mine down to get a better fit.
Paul
It is also worth noting how far the back of the pop rivets stick out at the inside of the car, as they can interfere with the fit of the cant rails.
I had to flatten mine down to get a better fit.
Paul
65 Series 1 FHC, 68 Jaguar 340
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#8 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Hi Paul
That was one of my original reasons for asking the question, as I wondered if there were a protrusion would it not be better within the metal channel....and which i would then notch the rubber if it needed it....
However...having now modified my rivet gun so the ends will fit into the channel i shall install as intended and try to use the shortest rivets in each case that i can get away with
Best
Jonathan
That was one of my original reasons for asking the question, as I wondered if there were a protrusion would it not be better within the metal channel....and which i would then notch the rubber if it needed it....
However...having now modified my rivet gun so the ends will fit into the channel i shall install as intended and try to use the shortest rivets in each case that i can get away with
Best
Jonathan
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#9 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Yves, happy XKE 63 fhc , w113 280sl owner
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#10 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Once I fitted my rivets (I had to modify my rivet gun too), I used a blunt cold chisel in the grove on the outside as a dolly and planished the end of the rivet flat(ish) on the inside.
Paul
Paul
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#11 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Yup...that what I thought I would have to do
This weekend I managed to drill all the holes for the channels...then cleaned/primed and top coated the channels....so either later in the week or next weekend I shall begin to fix them in place
Appreciate the photos guys...confirms what inhad suspected...
This weekend I managed to drill all the holes for the channels...then cleaned/primed and top coated the channels....so either later in the week or next weekend I shall begin to fix them in place
Appreciate the photos guys...confirms what inhad suspected...
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#12 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Jonathan,
you are right, use the rivets with the correct length.
Measure the thickness to be riveted and use the rivet whose maximum capacity is in this depth.
This will give you a little ball in the back.
I sell these rivets and 8 out of 10 customers take too long.
you are right, use the rivets with the correct length.
Measure the thickness to be riveted and use the rivet whose maximum capacity is in this depth.
This will give you a little ball in the back.
I sell these rivets and 8 out of 10 customers take too long.
Michel
1965 E Type FHC - On the road / 1963 E Type OTS - on the road after Angus Restoration
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#13 Re: Fixing of the metal channel around the door/window openings
Hi
I fitted all the channels as described above and fitted the seals. Around the rear windows it all works as should but I have had to take the channel back off and stick the rubber on around the doors to get them to shut properly. I thought it was the seals but have tried 3 different sources including COH Baines ( which fit the best ) and have taken the car to 2 different specialists with no luck. I will be interested in how you get on
I fitted all the channels as described above and fitted the seals. Around the rear windows it all works as should but I have had to take the channel back off and stick the rubber on around the doors to get them to shut properly. I thought it was the seals but have tried 3 different sources including COH Baines ( which fit the best ) and have taken the car to 2 different specialists with no luck. I will be interested in how you get on
Trevor Hanna
1967 Series 1 2+2 Carmen Red
1967 Series 1 2+2 Carmen Red
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