Oil return hose

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#1 Oil return hose

Post by No Quarter » Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:56 pm

I have a perhaps small problem with potentially pretty serious consequences. The oil hose from the filter unit down to the oil pan, which is supposed to contain hot oil. My problem is that the two studs are not the same OD. The top one is OD 15.8mm, the lower is OD 14.3mm. My local parts guy sold me a hose that's very soft and flexible, and that can fit both ends. But it being so soft, do I trust it with hot oil? Limora sold me a thick stiff hose that fit on top, but is too big for the lower stud. And a third hose I got fits below, and can with great force be slided onto the top stud, but the hose then looks like a problem waiting to happen.

Am I too cautious? Is it correct to have different size studs? Or?
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#2 Re: Oil return hose

Post by DWW » Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:22 pm

Not 100% sure but from what I can see the hose is of uniform diameter of the larger and the smaller ID gets a jubilee clamp.
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#3 Re: Oil return hose

Post by mgcjag » Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:34 pm

The correct hose is tapered...different internal diameter at each ends.....they are available....but most of the usuals supply a straight hose.....if you use straight then at least make sure its suitable for oil and not a coolant hose......Steve
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#4 Re: Oil return hose

Post by Heuer » Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:56 pm

Yep, one of those Jaguar mysteries that we will never solve! The original hose was indeed tapered so unless you can find a supplier (I only know of one and they do not sell direct) it is a matter of tightening the lower clamp until there are no leaks.
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#5 Re: Oil return hose

Post by 44DHR » Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:54 pm

Just use two Jubilee Clips on the curved sump pipe.
One to seal around just under the top flared pipe diameter and another below to tighten on the lower smaller pipe diameter. The other smaller pipe attached is the Header Tank overflow pipe.
This the heavy pretty inflexible oil pipe from SNG Barrett with the white printed oil specification on the pipe hidden around the back.
No leaks from the sump or this sump return pipe !
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#6 Re: Oil return hose

Post by abowie » Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:22 pm

What I do is cut a short length of narrower ID hose (I use clear PVC) and slide this over the smaller spigot on the sump.

Then you can use the straight hose and it doesn't leak.

As to whether the hose supplied to you is safe I can't comment. Ask the seller if it is oil compatible.
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#7 Re: Oil return hose

Post by mtnjag » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:12 pm

A good auto parts store will have hose for carrying hot oil. There is no pressure there.
If you can't find one go to a shop that does hydraulic hose and fittings. They make up hydraulic pressure lines and will surely have what you need.
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#8 Re: Oil return hose

Post by bitsobrits » Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:56 pm

An elegant and long term solution, due to the hose construction. A bit pricey at $30 before shipping, though.

http://www.classicjaguar.com/cj/111414sh1.jpg
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#9 Re: Oil return hose

Post by keithmac » Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:47 am

:yeahthat: After four years and leaks even with double clamps , I bought the above hose. Problem solved.
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#10 Re: Oil return hose

Post by caveman » Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:23 am

bitsobrits wrote:
Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:56 pm
An elegant and long term solution, due to the hose construction. A bit pricey at $30 before shipping, though.
http://www.classicjaguar.com/cj/111414sh1.jpg
Hopefully on Julian’s (SNGB UK) radar as I would like one of these soon.

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#11 Re: Oil return hose

Post by mgcjag » Fri Jun 09, 2023 11:55 am

Plenty of hose manufacturers that can make you one..or check out ebay..silicone hose reducers...iv just got 2 larger diameter coolant hose reducers for a project...Steve... like this
just choose your size https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Silico ... 635-2958-0
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#12 Re: Oil return hose

Post by mtnjag » Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:50 pm

Check a racing supply shop. Over here Pegasus Racing stocks silicon hose with differentially sized ends.
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#13 Re: Oil return hose

Post by caveman » Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:27 pm

Perfect, thanks gents. :salute:
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#14 Re: Oil return hose

Post by No Quarter » Tue Jun 13, 2023 8:02 am

I ended up using the Limora hose. It says oil on it, it's stiff, thick and confidence inspiring, it fits perfectly on top, and with a gap at the bottom of course. But with two clamps tightened at the bottom, I was not able to turn the hose by hand, so pretty tight.
I'll keep an eye on it...

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#15 Re: Oil return hose

Post by DWW » Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:10 pm

Sounds good shouldn't give any problems.
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