Brake line routing
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#1 Brake line routing
Again, forgive me, never built an E-Type before, bought this one in boxes, and no E-Type nearby to look at. So...anybody have what I haven't been able to find, a schematic or a picture of routing of brake lines? I've bought complete set...
Mikael
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#2 Re: Brake line routing
Mikael
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#3 Re: Brake line routing
If you Google search 'jaguar e type brake line routing' and go to images you will find much info and illustrations.
Danny
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#4 Re: Brake line routing
Thanks Danny, that helps on what is attached to what, had most of that. But as an example, the brake line that runs under the floor, picture so I don't attach it in the wrong routing
Mikael
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Dismissing - offhand - Mikael's question as one that could be solved with an exploded parts drawing, and a search of the Internet, looks like a good illustration of the differences that exist between people who buy their cars, as opposed to those who build them.
No slight on the former, but personally I don't use the Forum to answer technical and mechanical topics where I have no hands on authority.
It is indeed a perfectly legitimate question in the eyes of anyone who has spent many hundreds of hours building or restoring an E-Type, and our Forum exists - and only has any value, or interest, as distinct from being pub-bore-chat - to help fellow sufferers like Mikael.
Count me as one of them, in fact, and on this very subject.
Furthermore, neither he nor I have easy access to the many opportunities afforded UK members to "check someone else's car".
The pictures show the old brake-pipe that came off my car, and which whilst it is not original, does - I think - follow the correct routing for a RHD car.
I'll be replacing it as the back half is in copper not CuNiFer.
The clips that most people seem to use are this type, which are not original :
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/br ... f-10-blc-3
but the holes present in my chassis rails lead me to think the pipe-run at least is correct. The black nylon P clips seen above the CuNiFer are obviously not original either, but again use the holes that were originally present to take the 5/16" fuel pipe.
Incidentally, these are extremely useful to put a discreet threaded fastener into a panel - for applications just like the fuel-line P-clip anchorages - and I have discretely used them in many places where I couldn't bear to use self-tappers.
Best UK source I've found is here : A+J Fasteners
http://ajfasteners.co.uk/68-cavity-fixings
The tricky bit for the pipe run is where you get to the reaction plate, where hopefully someone else will step in with some pictures ; I buffered my pipe with a sleeve at this point and secured it with a small P clip to the tail-end of the chassis rail, but I have a non-standard servo so the shape will be different.
If you have a LHD car, I believe that from this point the pipe runs up the RHS of the transmission tunnel and then across the top of the bulkhead, is anchored to a front-frame mounting bolt, before joining up with the master cylinder ; this shot is from the Factory Fit thread
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2006
One thing that is worth bearing in mind at this point is how the fuel-pipe runs up to feed the carbs ; in it's previous build mine ran under the floor panel behind the RH foot-board, and I believe this is original as I think Steve used a picture of this area of my car, to illustrate the point, elsewhere.
It means that using this area - otherwise perfect - as a lifting point for a 4-arm car-lift requires the use of a fairly crafty sculpted block to pass over the fuel-pipe.
I'm hoping to find a different way of doing this in #build2 so that this zone is free of any obstruction.
No slight on the former, but personally I don't use the Forum to answer technical and mechanical topics where I have no hands on authority.
It is indeed a perfectly legitimate question in the eyes of anyone who has spent many hundreds of hours building or restoring an E-Type, and our Forum exists - and only has any value, or interest, as distinct from being pub-bore-chat - to help fellow sufferers like Mikael.
Count me as one of them, in fact, and on this very subject.
Furthermore, neither he nor I have easy access to the many opportunities afforded UK members to "check someone else's car".
The pictures show the old brake-pipe that came off my car, and which whilst it is not original, does - I think - follow the correct routing for a RHD car.
I'll be replacing it as the back half is in copper not CuNiFer.
The clips that most people seem to use are this type, which are not original :
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/br ... f-10-blc-3
but the holes present in my chassis rails lead me to think the pipe-run at least is correct. The black nylon P clips seen above the CuNiFer are obviously not original either, but again use the holes that were originally present to take the 5/16" fuel pipe.
Incidentally, these are extremely useful to put a discreet threaded fastener into a panel - for applications just like the fuel-line P-clip anchorages - and I have discretely used them in many places where I couldn't bear to use self-tappers.
Best UK source I've found is here : A+J Fasteners
http://ajfasteners.co.uk/68-cavity-fixings
The tricky bit for the pipe run is where you get to the reaction plate, where hopefully someone else will step in with some pictures ; I buffered my pipe with a sleeve at this point and secured it with a small P clip to the tail-end of the chassis rail, but I have a non-standard servo so the shape will be different.
If you have a LHD car, I believe that from this point the pipe runs up the RHS of the transmission tunnel and then across the top of the bulkhead, is anchored to a front-frame mounting bolt, before joining up with the master cylinder ; this shot is from the Factory Fit thread
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2006
One thing that is worth bearing in mind at this point is how the fuel-pipe runs up to feed the carbs ; in it's previous build mine ran under the floor panel behind the RH foot-board, and I believe this is original as I think Steve used a picture of this area of my car, to illustrate the point, elsewhere.
It means that using this area - otherwise perfect - as a lifting point for a 4-arm car-lift requires the use of a fairly crafty sculpted block to pass over the fuel-pipe.
I'm hoping to find a different way of doing this in #build2 so that this zone is free of any obstruction.
Rory
3.8 OTS S1 Opalescent Silver Grey - built May 28th 1962
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#8 Re: Brake line routing
Thanks mxke and especially rfs1957 for detailed answers, pictures will be copied to ppt, printed on A3, taken to the garage and will get me far
Mikael
63 E-Type, 81 XJ6, 03 X-Type, 07 XKR
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78 Longchamp
Author of "Tuning Made Easy"
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