Brake line routing

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#1 Brake line routing

Post by No Quarter » Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:02 pm

Again, forgive me, never built an E-Type before, bought this one in boxes, and no E-Type nearby to look at. So...anybody have what I haven't been able to find, a schematic or a picture of routing of brake lines? I've bought complete set...
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#2 Re: Brake line routing

Post by No Quarter » Sun Oct 01, 2023 12:47 pm

Just thought I'd share this picture that I found amusing :bigrin:
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#3 Re: Brake line routing

Post by DWW » Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:48 pm

If you Google search 'jaguar e type brake line routing' and go to images you will find much info and illustrations.


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#4 Re: Brake line routing

Post by No Quarter » Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:56 pm

Thanks Danny, that helps on what is attached to what, had most of that. But as an example, the brake line that runs under the floor, picture so I don't attach it in the wrong routing
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#5 Re: Brake line routing

Post by DWW » Sun Oct 01, 2023 1:58 pm

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#6 Re: Brake line routing

Post by mxke » Sun Oct 01, 2023 5:32 pm

Do these help?
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#7 Re: Brake line routing

Post by rfs1957 » Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:36 pm

Dismissing - offhand - Mikael's question as one that could be solved with an exploded parts drawing, and a search of the Internet, looks like a good illustration of the differences that exist between people who buy their cars, as opposed to those who build them.

No slight on the former, but personally I don't use the Forum to answer technical and mechanical topics where I have no hands on authority.

It is indeed a perfectly legitimate question in the eyes of anyone who has spent many hundreds of hours building or restoring an E-Type, and our Forum exists - and only has any value, or interest, as distinct from being pub-bore-chat - to help fellow sufferers like Mikael.

Count me as one of them, in fact, and on this very subject.

Furthermore, neither he nor I have easy access to the many opportunities afforded UK members to "check someone else's car".

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The pictures show the old brake-pipe that came off my car, and which whilst it is not original, does - I think - follow the correct routing for a RHD car.

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I'll be replacing it as the back half is in copper not CuNiFer.

The clips that most people seem to use are this type, which are not original :

https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/br ... f-10-blc-3

but the holes present in my chassis rails lead me to think the pipe-run at least is correct. The black nylon P clips seen above the CuNiFer are obviously not original either, but again use the holes that were originally present to take the 5/16" fuel pipe.

Incidentally, these are extremely useful to put a discreet threaded fastener into a panel - for applications just like the fuel-line P-clip anchorages - and I have discretely used them in many places where I couldn't bear to use self-tappers.

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Best UK source I've found is here : A+J Fasteners

http://ajfasteners.co.uk/68-cavity-fixings

The tricky bit for the pipe run is where you get to the reaction plate, where hopefully someone else will step in with some pictures ; I buffered my pipe with a sleeve at this point and secured it with a small P clip to the tail-end of the chassis rail, but I have a non-standard servo so the shape will be different.

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If you have a LHD car, I believe that from this point the pipe runs up the RHS of the transmission tunnel and then across the top of the bulkhead, is anchored to a front-frame mounting bolt, before joining up with the master cylinder ; this shot is from the Factory Fit thread

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One thing that is worth bearing in mind at this point is how the fuel-pipe runs up to feed the carbs ; in it's previous build mine ran under the floor panel behind the RH foot-board, and I believe this is original as I think Steve used a picture of this area of my car, to illustrate the point, elsewhere.

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It means that using this area - otherwise perfect - as a lifting point for a 4-arm car-lift requires the use of a fairly crafty sculpted block to pass over the fuel-pipe.

I'm hoping to find a different way of doing this in #build2 so that this zone is free of any obstruction.

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#8 Re: Brake line routing

Post by No Quarter » Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:48 am

Thanks mxke and especially rfs1957 for detailed answers, pictures will be copied to ppt, printed on A3, taken to the garage and will get me far :bigrin:
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