Washer motor. AGAIN

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#1 Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by vipergts » Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:47 pm

It would seem I need yet another washer motor assembly.

Firstly mine is the later S1 4.2 plastic jobbie.

I can only find a replacement which includes the bottle and bulkhead bracket etc, neither of which I need.

This little lot comes to over £180. Unbelievable

Does anyone know if I can buy just the motor assembly anywhere??


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#2 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by Gfhug » Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:05 pm

Hi, can you add your name to your signature, please? It’s much more polite to use your name when responding.

I have successfully taken the motor to bits, cleaned it and reassembled to get a good washer motor. Just be careful not to lose bits. There are generic washer motors out there, they’ll not look like the original but will do a fine job for much less. Fleabay has them.

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#3 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by vipergts » Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:12 pm

Thanks Geoff
I’ve stripped it and it would appear the plastic/rubber impeller has melted for some reason. Maybe run dry.

I know there are generic motors but wanted to keep it looking original if possible

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#4 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by DWW » Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:32 pm

Here: Seller says pump not tested though.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325852657992 ... R5TnneXtYg
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#5 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by rfs1957 » Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:10 am

Is the pump actually visible with the plastic 4.2 version ?

I ask simply because I would challenge anyone to spot that my glass 3.8 type no longer uses the original pump.

I use a Mini pump fitted just above and behind the glove box, sucking through the original tube and foot, such that - I think - it is impossible to know that the original is no longer present.

It just requires dummy wiring to the old connectors, and a bit of harness tweaking under the dash.

Cheap, cheerful, invisible.

Will look for pictures if anyone is interested.
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#6 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by Series1 Stu » Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:27 am

I recall reading an article, a good few years ago, where somebody retrofitted a modern generic pump inside the standard Lucas motor housing. I think it was the Jaguar Enthusiast magazine.

It gave a good spray of water, rather than the reluctant dribble the standard set up gives.

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#7 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by 1954Etype » Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:00 am

Don't forget to fit a non return valve. If not, the pump has to prime every time you use the washers and it will fail early.
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#8 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by rfs1957 » Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:08 am

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The only nifty bit is soft-soldering a take-off onto the brass tube at the top, and connecting it to the original delivery port.

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I sourced mine here.

https://www.minispares.com/product/Clas ... o%20search
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#9 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by Monkeyfinger » Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:53 am

I installed a 12v submersible pump in mine - check this old post and the thread:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16614&p=137823&hili ... or#p137070
If you are fairly handy, this would be easy enough to do (even without 3D printed parts). The result is significantly improved flow, quieter operation, and no external visual clue that anything is non standard. There are various very cheap submersible pumps available on Ebay and elsewhere, all of which would do the job, with a bit of ingenuity. I had a look at putting a motor inside the existing housing, but decided a submersible pump was an easier route.
I did supply a kit to another member - hopefully it's still working...
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#10 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by vipergts » Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:19 pm

Series1 Stu wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:27 am
I recall reading an article, a good few years ago, where somebody retrofitted a modern generic pump inside the standard Lucas motor housing. I think it was the Jaguar Enthusiast magazine.

It gave a good spray of water, rather than the reluctant dribble the standard set up gives.

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#11 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by vipergts » Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:19 pm

1954Etype wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:00 am
Don't forget to fit a non return valve. If not, the pump has to prime every time you use the washers and it will fail early.
Yes great idea
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#12 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by vipergts » Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:21 pm

Monkeyfinger wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:53 am
I installed a 12v submersible pump in mine - check this old post and the thread:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16614&p=137823&hili ... or#p137070
If you are fairly handy, this would be easy enough to do (even without 3D printed parts). The result is significantly improved flow, quieter operation, and no external visual clue that anything is non standard. There are various very cheap submersible pumps available on Ebay and elsewhere, all of which would do the job, with a bit of ingenuity. I had a look at putting a motor inside the existing housing, but decided a submersible pump was an easier route.
I did supply a kit to another member - hopefully it's still working...

Thanks. I was looking for submersible pumps earlier.
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#13 Re: Washer motor. AGAIN

Post by david.coan » Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:56 pm

I too removed my old faulty motor from my 1968 S1.5 and removed the associated bottle inlet pipe,i kept the motor housing with its wiring connectors and put a small submersible pump in, from the outside no one can really tell and it cost only a few pounds and works well
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