Clutch slave cylinder- delay in retracting
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#1 Clutch slave cylinder- delay in retracting
Hi there ,
67 FHC (mid year)
I have some clutch slip but wanted to check the clutch release mechanism is working correctly first.
I had my son press the clutch pedal while I was under the car. No problem with it fully extending but when he takes his foot off the pedal it is taking a few seconds to release fully.
Clutch master cylinder and slave are new. I have the spacer between the master cylinder and the pedal box.
Does the slave cylinder and spring look correct?
Should I swap out the original old clutch hose in case it is restricting the return flow?
Worth re-bleeding- although no issues with clutch disengaging.
Bigger return spring?
I swapped the feed to below the cylinder so I could bleed it from the top- hopefully not caused any other issues.
All suggestions welcome and apologies as I got a bit lost with the clutch slave cylinder versions.
Thanks
Eddie Cross
67 FHC (mid year)
I have some clutch slip but wanted to check the clutch release mechanism is working correctly first.
I had my son press the clutch pedal while I was under the car. No problem with it fully extending but when he takes his foot off the pedal it is taking a few seconds to release fully.
Clutch master cylinder and slave are new. I have the spacer between the master cylinder and the pedal box.
Does the slave cylinder and spring look correct?
Should I swap out the original old clutch hose in case it is restricting the return flow?
Worth re-bleeding- although no issues with clutch disengaging.
Bigger return spring?
I swapped the feed to below the cylinder so I could bleed it from the top- hopefully not caused any other issues.
All suggestions welcome and apologies as I got a bit lost with the clutch slave cylinder versions.
Thanks
Eddie Cross
67 FHC
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#2 Re: Clutch slave cylinder- delay in retracting
The return spring does not appear to have any tension on it when at rest with the slave piston fully retracted. You want a bit of tension present when everything is static, as evidenced by a small amount of visible separation of the spring coils. You can pivot the plate under the slave lower bolt to about a 45 degree angle to accomplish this.
Also, while you are 'here', ensure you have just a bit of freeplay (1/16" or so) when everything is at rest before the throwout bearing contacts the pressure plate. You can do this by feel (best done with the spring disconnected) or by looking up into the bell housing through the lower inspection hole.
Also, while you are 'here', ensure you have just a bit of freeplay (1/16" or so) when everything is at rest before the throwout bearing contacts the pressure plate. You can do this by feel (best done with the spring disconnected) or by looking up into the bell housing through the lower inspection hole.
Steve
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#3 Re: Clutch slave cylinder- delay in retracting
BTDT.
If there is clutch slip there is only one solution. I blamed the master cylinder and the slave cylinder but that merely avoided the inevitable, and expensive solution.
And once I had replaced the clutch and release bearing, and ensured the released fork was true and working freely (a lazy clutch can indicate a bent or ill fitting release fork), I found the pedal return spring had broken.
If there is clutch slip there is only one solution. I blamed the master cylinder and the slave cylinder but that merely avoided the inevitable, and expensive solution.
And once I had replaced the clutch and release bearing, and ensured the released fork was true and working freely (a lazy clutch can indicate a bent or ill fitting release fork), I found the pedal return spring had broken.
Chris '67 S1 2+2
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#4 Re: Clutch slave cylinder- delay in retracting
Many thanks,
Will reset the return spring tension, check clutch free play
RE: Return spring in the pedal box.
Image from strip down....May have missed this. Looks like part of the return spring is broken?
Thanks
Eddie
Will reset the return spring tension, check clutch free play
RE: Return spring in the pedal box.
Image from strip down....May have missed this. Looks like part of the return spring is broken?
Thanks
Eddie
67 FHC
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#5 Re: Clutch slave cylinder- delay in retracting
That doesn't look broken. Easy to check, if the clutch pedal is floppy, the spring is fecked. If the pedal remains hard against the pedal box, the spring is doing its job.
Chris '67 S1 2+2
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#6 Re: Clutch slave cylinder- delay in retracting
You also need to trim the excess length from the split pin. That is just waiting to jam up on the casting.
Mike
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Steve
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#8 Re: Clutch slave cylinder- delay in retracting
Many thanks. I'll work through all the suggestions and let you know the outcome.
All the best
Eddie
All the best
Eddie
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#9 Re: Clutch slave cylinder- delay in retracting
Hello,
I have had this very problem, I even changed the clutch, no fix. The problem turned out to be the rubber hose which connects the slave to the hard pipe from the master cylinder. The rubber hose swells and reduces the return flow.
I have had this very problem, I even changed the clutch, no fix. The problem turned out to be the rubber hose which connects the slave to the hard pipe from the master cylinder. The rubber hose swells and reduces the return flow.
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#10 Re: Clutch slave cylinder- delay in retracting
Good point just ordered the hose as well as the spring.
Thx
Eddie
Thx
Eddie
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