Upper Steering Column Bearings

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#1 Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by mgcjag » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:26 pm

Hi All......looking through Chris Vines Blog http://etype.chrisvine.com/tag/steering/ he replaced the bearings in the steering column..looks like he used original type plastic cage tapered roller bearings....any one used these...where did you get them from....looked at some of the usuals they only have a solid type bearing....Thanks... Steve
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#2 Re: Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by politeperson » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:52 pm

Are you sure its the bearings Steve?

When my S2 steering wheel started moving up and down it turned out it was the wavy washer that had broken up. Once that was replaced all was fine.

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#3 Re: Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by mgcjag » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:18 pm

Hi James ....its not actually for my car....but yes its the bearings..they are out and in bits....Steve
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#4 Re: Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by mgcjag » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:37 pm

So just to bump this up....I thought there wers lots of you out there that have done full rebuilds....did you forget the steering column :bigrin: ...Steve
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#5 Re: Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by Series1 Stu » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:08 pm

There aren't any taper roller bearings in a series 1 steering column. No such luxury, I'm afraid.

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#6 Re: Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by mgcjag » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:17 pm

Were in the S2 section.........for S1 your fortunate.........Steve
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#7 Re: Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by angelw » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:41 pm

Hello Steve,
I doubt that you will find them; I've been searching for them for years. As an alternative, I've used turcite, an anti friction, high load bearing material used on the slide-ways of better quality machine tools, in particular, CNC machines having Box slide-ways.

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#8 Re: Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by Series1 Stu » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:48 pm

I was just responding to your bump of this topic by saying that there are a lot of rebuilt cars but they don't all have taper roller bearings in the steering column. Therefore there's a high chance that nobody knows the answer to your question.

It's interesting that my '69 420 has plastic bearings too.

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#9 Re: Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by mgcjag » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:33 pm

Thanks Stuart..your probably correct..xj6 also have then.. Bill..thanks for the info...will keep looking but will probably go down the route you suggest...Steve
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#10 Re: Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by angelw » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:36 pm

Hello Steve,
If you happen to find a supply, do Post it here. However, my enquiries have been rather thorough and I've not come up with anything.

Turcite is a rather good solution. It comes in many thicknesses and is machinable and has the advantage of not brinelling the surfaces of the cones; in fact, it tends to cushion shock loading. There is a minimum size sheet that can be purchased from suppliers and its expensive. Accordingly, given the small quantity required to do the job, seek to purchase a scrap from a Machine Tool Reconditioner.

In use, its glued to one of the surfaces. The best surfaces to deal with in the Steering Column assembly are the male cone surfaces. Its wrapped around the cone as you would wrap an ice cream cone and then trim to size once the glue has set. This can be done using as Box Cutter or razer blade.

If you decide to go this way, I'll let you know the glue to use. I'm not in the shop now and I can't recall the specification.

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#11 Re: Upper Steering Column Bearings

Post by Steve Marshall » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:40 pm

I bought SNG Barratt replacements but they turned out to be solid types. My lower plastic cage taper needle roller item had a weird effect where it was bearing on plastic instead of the needles, because some of the cage had become swollen as if by fire or chemical attack. Definitely no fire ever in my car, and the cage being probably nylon very resistant to chemicals.
Conceivably off another S2?
Anyway I trimmed excess plastic with a scalpel and it works well.
I found some 2:1 shrink on sleeving that would only just stretch over the lower mounting flange and shrink over the collapsing cage to seal it from dust etc.
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