Changing a clutch a 9 to 5 job !

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#21 Re: Changing a clutch a 9 to 5 job !

Post by Heuer » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:07 pm

I have stayed out of this discussion as I had hoped John would, in the cold light of day, have amended, retracted his post or adopted a more conciliatory tone. Having a strong point of view is fine but there is no need to denigrate those who do not agree with you.

If John is convinced the gearbox can be removed from a SWB S1/S2 with the engine in-situ then perhaps he should put up some step by step instructions of how it is done along with some photos. If it has been done, as John claims, there should be some examples and testimony out there.
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#22 Re: Changing a clutch a 9 to 5 job !

Post by JJC » Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:38 pm

Well, you have a short wheel base car, I believe, why don't you put in a 5 speed. You can buy one for less then 6K US, with all the bits, Get a friend with a lift, put one in, and take pictures along the way, perhaps a video, which you could put on UTube. Why in God's name would I track down an owner about to put in a 5 speed, without removing the engine, and photograph the procedure ?? For you and any other doubting Thomas ??
Don't have that kind of time, and if someone wants to do it to a short wheel base E, if they put the car up on a lift, and give it a quick study, they will figure it out. To easy a job to require pictures.

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#23 Re: Changing a clutch a 9 to 5 job !

Post by Heuer » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:47 pm

My OTS has a T5 gearbox and the engine had to come out to fit it. The engine had to come out on another two occasions as the speedo drive failed, hence my curiosity as to how it can be done.

If you have no procedure to hand as to how it can be done perhaps someone can give a step by step explanation why it cannot?
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#24 Re: Changing a clutch a 9 to 5 job !

Post by Sdinse » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:51 pm

JJC wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:48 pm
Hi Steve, not an upgrade, just new. In the Series 3, the EXEDY clutch kit # 04021 does the trick. 10.5 inch, 10 tooth. Cheap, available from most suppliers. Its all you will need, and stay with old style heavy flywheel. Don't want to be reving the engine more then you have to in order to get moving. Have fun !

JC
Thanks for the information. If an Exedy 04021 will fit your stock flywheel, then that says most any GM 10.5" pressure plate should fit. This is according to my cross referencing of different manufacturers part numbers for the same applications as the 04021. These pressure plates have a mounting dimension of 11.625".

What presents a problem with all this looking up of part numbers is what I found when I finally got ahold of information from AP Racing. In their online catalog under E-Type - 1971 to 1974 they list their part number CP2789-1 at 267mm (10.5") and only 293 lbs\ft torque capacity. Looking in their downloaded catalog (https://www.apracing.com/drawings/2018% ... Clutch.pdf) it lists the mounting holes (mm) for CP2789-1 as "6-off Ø11.4/10.16 Equispaced on a Ø306.4 P.C.D.". 306.4mm equates to 12.06299" and only 1900 lbs. clamp load. Quite a bit off from 11.625" and now I know why I'n getting slippage. So I'm still hoping someone could measure a stock flywheel or pressure plate and end the confusion.

Anyone out there who could take measurements?

TIA
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#25 Re: Changing a clutch a 9 to 5 job !

Post by JJC » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:11 pm

Better off checking out Rock Auto here in the US.. Here is the big clue.....don't check for Jaguar parts....check Chevy parts foe Camaro's and Corvette's. The small block version of both cars use the same drive train parts Jaguar used...exactly the same. Have fun ! FYI....don't pay more then $80 plus shipping for the EXEDY kit....after all, its a Chevy part !! LOL

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#26 Re: Changing a clutch a 9 to 5 job !

Post by Sdinse » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:54 am

OK! :bigrin:

Good to know AP most likely has bogus data in their catalog as far as Jags are concerned. I'll be proceeding along shopping for a Chevy 10.5" with some serious clamping force.

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#27 Re: Changing a clutch a 9 to 5 job !

Post by abowie » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:33 am

Heuer wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:07 pm

If John is convinced the gearbox can be removed from a SWB S1/S2 with the engine in-situ then perhaps he should put up some step by step instructions of how it is done along with some photos.
LOL is this still going on?
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#28 Re: Changing a clutch a 9 to 5 job !

Post by abowie » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:35 am

Heuer wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:47 pm
My OTS has a T5 gearbox and the engine had to come out to fit it.
I had to take the IRS out as well to allow for the sliding yoke.
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