Lower steering UJ removal

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#1 Lower steering UJ removal

Post by Paddy » Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:46 pm

I have followed a few posts about removing the universal joint from the yokes and am not being too successful.
I attempted to use the vice and a couple of wrench drivers one small enough to ensure slide through of the UJ and on the opposite end a larger diameter that sits around the yoke. I have managed to push through but not enough to release, it appears to butt up against the inner yoke and I’m afraid to apply any further pressure for fear of destroying the yokes.
To make matters worse I appear to have cracked the head on the UJ now and have a whole series of metal splines sitting on the bench. Not best pleased and totally frustrated.
Thoughts and comments welcome.
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#2 Re: Lower steering UJ removal

Post by Series1 Stu » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:11 pm

When I replaced all the universal joints on my car I found the easiest route, after hours of messing about, was to grind the old ones out being careful not to damage the yokes of the shafts/column.

You can then remove all the rollers and their cups and clean up the yokes ready for the new UJs to be fitted.

As long as you're careful it will be fine. And wear eye protection.

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#3 Re: Lower steering UJ removal

Post by mgcjag » Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:03 am

Hi Richard...sounds like your half way there....jiggle out all the needle rollers if you can and continue with the two sockets to push the caps through as far as the yoke will allow...you should then be able to jiggle out the yoke....if not grip the protruding yoke in a vice and twist/work it out.....or use a small drift from inside to knock it out as per service manual
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#4 Re: Lower steering UJ removal

Post by Rustyred » Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:57 am

I just want to say, Steering Uni Joints are not to be pulled apart, Cups are factory pressed and later pinned By machine once located, to prevent removal. The whole Trunnion is removed from the shafts.
This applies to all Makes and Models, not just Jaguar.

These Joints are supplied as a trunnion package, not the joint separately.
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#5 Re: Lower steering UJ removal

Post by Paddy » Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:59 am

Thanks for the reassurance I’m on the right track, will carry on

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#6 Re: Lower steering UJ removal

Post by PeterCrespin » Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:17 pm

Rustyred wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:57 am
The whole Trunnion is removed from the shafts.
This applies to all Makes and Models, not just Jaguar.
It doesn'y apply to all E-types, never mind Jags. Some Series 1 cars have the top yoke of the lower UJ lntegral with the column forging
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#7 Re: Lower steering UJ removal

Post by Series1 Stu » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:41 pm

Yes Pete. Mine is as you described with a conventional spider type universal joint.

All of my UJ's were solid due to standing so long. The only answer was to grind them out because no amount of tapping the yoke was going to move the cups. Also, some of the circlips were rusted in place.

The steering column UJ was the easiest to deal with.

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#8 Re: Lower steering UJ removal

Post by Rustyred » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:12 pm

PeterCrespin wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:17 pm
Rustyred wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:57 am
The whole Trunnion is removed from the shafts.
This applies to all Makes and Models, not just Jaguar.
It doesn'y apply to all E-types, never mind Jags. Some Series 1 cars have the top yoke of the lower UJ lntegral with the column forging
Interesting, I didn't realise that, as I havent seen a Series One, So you can buy just the replacement Steering UJ on those. Are they held in with internal circlips to make removal easy. I have a PTO shaft in need of replacement joints, Which are Steering UJ size, but shaft large.
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#9 Re: Lower steering UJ removal

Post by mgcjag » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:41 pm

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