Series 2 aesthetics

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#181 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Gfhug » Sun Dec 23, 2018 10:13 am

Anthony, I've heard of people adding a strip of LEDs into the rear number plate light for the reverse lights. Or you could position a strip above the number plate itself. It might be worth you looking at that to give you a neat solution.

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#182 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by FHCINSC » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:47 pm

Nice suggestions. Thank you.

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#183 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Joerg » Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:58 pm

Post #113 within this thread should do what you are looking for.
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#184 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Herzeg » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:58 pm

Anthony

Marek, who is active on this site, sells a conversion of the rear lights with led reversing lights built in. I have them and they are incredibly bright. Well worth an investment and a proven fitment.

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#185 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by E600 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:26 pm

All this talk of rear lights jogged a memory. I bought a project car several years ago and the PO had done the reverse. He fitted S2 lights to a S1 FHC. I have no explanations.


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#186 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by politeperson » Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:48 pm

Blimey!

Thats definitely a case of fashion over style!
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#187 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by christopher storey » Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:09 pm

Well, although i don't much like it, I can see the reason for it : the S2 setup is much more visible from the rear than the titchy S1 rear/brake lights

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#188 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by MarekH » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:19 pm

Other than making the s2 and s3 LED "Lotus" lights fifteen years ago, I have also embedded LEDs behind the reflectors for s1 rear lights, but I haven't marketed this. It means the reflectors double up their function, you get two high brightness stop lights which are normally invisible, since the reflector is all you can normally see.

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#189 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Heuer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:23 pm

Great idea Marek - you should offer these to Forum members.
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#190 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by E600 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:38 pm

Marek, could they not be used as fog lights,increasing the light to the rear if caught out on a gloomy day?

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#191 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Heuer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:13 pm

"Fog lights should only be used in the fog, when visibility drops below 100 metres (328 feet) which is roughly the length of a football pitch, this is stated by the Highway Code (rule 226). If while driving in fog your car is involved in an accident and you weren't using your fog lights, it could invalidate your insurance. The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 prohibits the use of front and rear fog lights to dazzle other drivers when visibility is not reduced or when the vehicle is parked. Using fog lights in drizzle and rain is therefore not allowed. You are eligible for a fine from the police if caught."
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#192 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by christopher storey » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:59 pm

At least 2 dubious propositions in that quote, David , 1 about insurance being invalid and 1 about its being an offence to use fog lights when there is no fog . The offence is the use to dazzle other road users, not the use in itself

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#193 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Heuer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:44 pm

Not my words, hence the quotes - came from the RAC who are supposed to know about these things!
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#194 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by JJC » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:16 pm

I have Marek's reverse lights (built into the lens, of course) have had them for years now. Best thing I ever did....unbelievable lights ! Marek is a genius !! And you can ditch the old style, ugly , useless original back-up lights !! Looks fantastic !

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#195 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Herzeg » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:18 am

:yeahthat:

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#196 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by TurboScab » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:16 pm

christopher storey wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:59 pm
At least 2 dubious propositions in that quote, David , 1 about insurance being invalid and 1 about its being an offence to use fog lights when there is no fog . The offence is the use to dazzle other road users, not the use in itself
I beg to disagree with your explanation of the offence. There are 3 prohibited uses of either front or rear fog lamps. The first is as you state (dazzling other road users). The second is other than in conditions of seriously reduced visibility. The third is when parked. You should refer to reg 27 of the 1989 Regulations.

So everyone who uses either front or rear fog lamps in clear visibility is committing an offence even if use does not cause "undue dazzle or discomfort."
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#197 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Simon P » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:23 pm

My E-type gets around this potential regulatory minefield by the simple expedient of having neither front nor rear fog lights

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#198 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by christopher storey » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:19 pm

TurboScab wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:16 pm

I beg to disagree with your explanation of the offence. There are 3 prohibited uses of either front or rear fog lamps. The first is as you state (dazzling other road users). The second is other than in conditions of seriously reduced visibility. The third is when parked. You should refer to reg 27 of the 1989 Regulations.

So everyone who uses either front or rear fog lamps in clear visibility is committing an offence even if use does not cause "undue dazzle or discomfort."
Having read both the regulation - which does not of itself create an offence - and also S 42(1)b of the Road Traffic Act 1988 - which does create an offence, I agree that you are correct . The second - and even more so the third - limbs are particularly stupid, since a vehicle parked in thick fog is very much at risk without rear fog lamps

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#199 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Series1 Stu » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:55 pm

I'm sure I saw the Demon Tweeks racing E Types had their rear reflectors replaced by LED units for use as high intensity warning lights. Were these courtesy of Marek?

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#200 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by MarekH » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:41 am

Not it won't be one of mine. My s1 reflector light looks exactly like a 1963 reflector from the outside. The whole point of the s1 reversing light and the reflector lights is that you can't tell they are there until you use them.

My latest s2/s3 reversing lights now have four rows of white LEDs sitting between five rows of clear red LEDs

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