S1 headlight chrome fitting
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#1 S1 headlight chrome fitting
Hi all, just wondering what experiences others have had with repro headlight chromes. I have a new pair of chrome/brass units of unknown origin (ebay ) look superb, but proving a tad troublesome to fit.. its an un damaged original bonnet, unfortunately I don’t have any originals to offer up. Just wondering if I’ve bought some expensive scrap or if the ones supplied by Sng etc are any better. Cheers. Chris.
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#2 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
My experience was similar to yours.
I bought reproduction chrome trim from one of the usuals and there was no way on Earth that they were ever going to fit my original bonnet.
On returning them I was informed that they only fit reproduction bonnets.
Fortunately, I had a couple of sets of originals which just needed a little work and a re-chrome to get them back to original condition.
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I bought reproduction chrome trim from one of the usuals and there was no way on Earth that they were ever going to fit my original bonnet.
On returning them I was informed that they only fit reproduction bonnets.
Fortunately, I had a couple of sets of originals which just needed a little work and a re-chrome to get them back to original condition.
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Stuart
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I can't say I'm surprised Chris.
I struggled mightily with mine and they were the originals, AND Robeys had fitted them when fettling the (new) bonnet. I tried longer screws, some with sharpened ends, in my increasingly desperate attempts to get the damned threads to engage. Then if they were too long they bottomed out.....grrrr.
Eventually I replaced the original glasses with Mark Clapp's (thinner) perspex jobs, and it was better, so you might try that. But it took Angus and his boys to get them looking right. They still leak in the rain BTW...
Oh - do make sure you have the softer rubbers from COH Haines, which I believe all the usuals now sell.
I struggled mightily with mine and they were the originals, AND Robeys had fitted them when fettling the (new) bonnet. I tried longer screws, some with sharpened ends, in my increasingly desperate attempts to get the damned threads to engage. Then if they were too long they bottomed out.....grrrr.
Eventually I replaced the original glasses with Mark Clapp's (thinner) perspex jobs, and it was better, so you might try that. But it took Angus and his boys to get them looking right. They still leak in the rain BTW...
Oh - do make sure you have the softer rubbers from COH Haines, which I believe all the usuals now sell.
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I'm doing this at the moment. It's just a totally bastard job.
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#5 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
FWIW I just bought 2 new trim rings from SNG. Still waiting on delivery to see how fit is but in conversation with the sales rep I was told that they now manufacture their own pieces that are modelled on an original bonnet. I was told that so far the feedback has been that the fit is good but as expected there is still some variation between bonnets. Unfortunately I will not be in a position to judge as my bonnet has had previous repairs on both sides and I will be fitting the bonnet to the trim. I would love to hear if anyone has purchased the new sng part and how the fit is.
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#6 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
+1 for Mark Clapp's perspex headlight covers. They are deliberately made oversized so you can trim them to size. I had to buy a new crown ring and the flexibility of the perspex was a godsend.
A trick I learned was to push nails through all the screws holes in order to locate the crown ring before inserting any screws.
However the final assembly, no matter how good, will leak into the sugar scoops. The main cuplrit on my car is the seam above the headlamp bowls.
Cheers
Alan
A trick I learned was to push nails through all the screws holes in order to locate the crown ring before inserting any screws.
However the final assembly, no matter how good, will leak into the sugar scoops. The main cuplrit on my car is the seam above the headlamp bowls.
Cheers
Alan
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#7 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
Thanks gents, all points noted. I’ve since realised that I have an oem right hand chrome, and it fits beautifully...needs new chrome but so does everything else.
If anyone out there has an oem left side I’d be interested
Many thanks. Chris.
If anyone out there has an oem left side I’d be interested
Many thanks. Chris.
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Hi Chris...post in the Wanted section...Steve
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#9 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
Will do Steve. Thanks.
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#10 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
I have an odd trim but not sure whether its left or right side. Won't be at the workshop before Sunday. Will have a look then.ollieoscarsid wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:52 pmThanks gents, all points noted. I’ve since realised that I have an oem right hand chrome, and it fits beautifully...needs new chrome but so does everything else.
If anyone out there has an oem left side I’d be interested
Many thanks. Chris.
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Stuart
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#11 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
Morning Stuart, great. Will wait to hear. Thank you. Chris.
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#12 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
I’m sure others have observed this obvious irony: Jaguar created the most beautiful, artistic, eye-catching and absolutely perfect chrome headlight rings to surround and emphasize the weakest headlights since brass-era gas lamps. To me, this seems to be an even more appropriate subject for the famous comment once made by a Ford employee in regards to puttinging the first Mustang body on running gear from the Ford Falcon: “It’s like putting falsies on Grandma.”
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#13 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
The headlights are actually quite good, when you do the relay upgrade and fit halogen bulbs.
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#15 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
Perhaps a good reason to buy a series 1.5!
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How fast do you guys drive in the dark???
I have a S1 with standard lights and they seem to be just fine at under 70 mph!!
I have a S1 with standard lights and they seem to be just fine at under 70 mph!!
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#17 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
There is never a good reason to buy a S1.5 . . I'm sticking with my Series 1.
I would wait for the ones Sng are making in brass. Their Techy Pete Stant tells me that they have tested early batches on an original bonnet, on their own 50EE and also a new factory bonnet with good results.
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#18 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
Hey, Chris. Sorry for the delay but I've been re-fitting my garage for the last few months and everything got "tidied away".ollieoscarsid wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:32 amMorning Stuart, great. Will wait to hear. Thank you. Chris.
I have found my spare headlight chrome and it is a left hand side one. Original item.
It has a light dent on the upper part which should be dressable. Depending on your intentions it would probably polish up to an acceptable standard, although you may prefer to re-chrome it.
I'll try to get some decent pictures at the weekend if you're interested.
Regards
Stuart
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#19 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting
Cheers Stu, have sent you a PM. chris.
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Stuart
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