Timing chain tensioner
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#1 Timing chain tensioner
Hi Gents,
My engine has been removed for the purpose of addressing a lower timing chain rattle and oil leaks. After removal of the timing cover it was revealed that the hydraulic timing chain tensioner had never had the spring tension released, ie it was still in the locked position. I bought the car with 10,000 miles on a rebuilt engine (receipt) and I’ve subsequently put another 15,000 on it over 12 years. My engine builder (45 years Jaguar experience) was surprised it wasn’t noisier. Chains/sprockets are serviceable so a new (quality) tensioner and chain guides will be fitted along with a new water pump bearing/seal, crankshaft damper, machined flywheel and new clutch. Tappet clearances have also been checked. Here’s hoping for a quiet, oil-tight engine
My engine has been removed for the purpose of addressing a lower timing chain rattle and oil leaks. After removal of the timing cover it was revealed that the hydraulic timing chain tensioner had never had the spring tension released, ie it was still in the locked position. I bought the car with 10,000 miles on a rebuilt engine (receipt) and I’ve subsequently put another 15,000 on it over 12 years. My engine builder (45 years Jaguar experience) was surprised it wasn’t noisier. Chains/sprockets are serviceable so a new (quality) tensioner and chain guides will be fitted along with a new water pump bearing/seal, crankshaft damper, machined flywheel and new clutch. Tappet clearances have also been checked. Here’s hoping for a quiet, oil-tight engine
Pete
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61 E-Type FHC Opalescent Golden Sand
69 XJ6 4.2 MOD Old English White - one previous owner
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63 MGB Roadster Aintree Green - my dads from new
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#2 Re: Timing chain tensioner
That's just laughable.
Andrew.
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#3 Re: Timing chain tensioner
Yeah hysterical
Pete
61 E-Type FHC Opalescent Golden Sand
69 XJ6 4.2 MOD Old English White - one previous owner
18 F Pace S 30d Fuji White - shopping trolley
63 MGB Roadster Aintree Green - my dads from new
61 E-Type FHC Opalescent Golden Sand
69 XJ6 4.2 MOD Old English White - one previous owner
18 F Pace S 30d Fuji White - shopping trolley
63 MGB Roadster Aintree Green - my dads from new
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#4 Re: Timing chain tensioner
I feel your pain. It's impressive that it ran so well for so long.
Andrew.
881824, 1E21538. 889457. 1961 4.3l Mk2. 1975 XJS. 1962 MGB
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Adelaide, Australia
881824, 1E21538. 889457. 1961 4.3l Mk2. 1975 XJS. 1962 MGB
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Adelaide, Australia
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#5 Re: Timing chain tensioner
I had a similar experience. The PO had parked the car in his garage for 8 years after having noisy chain/valve train noise work done which did not solve the problem. Disgusted, he parked it and didn’t look back. Sold it to me and in the course of checking things out and bringing it back up, surprise, the tensioner wasn’t released!
Layne
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#6 Re: Timing chain tensioner
Too bad the tensioner isn’t accessible without removal of the timing cover. It’d save a lot of blood, sweat & tears, not to mention $$
Pete
61 E-Type FHC Opalescent Golden Sand
69 XJ6 4.2 MOD Old English White - one previous owner
18 F Pace S 30d Fuji White - shopping trolley
63 MGB Roadster Aintree Green - my dads from new
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69 XJ6 4.2 MOD Old English White - one previous owner
18 F Pace S 30d Fuji White - shopping trolley
63 MGB Roadster Aintree Green - my dads from new
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#7 Re: Timing chain tensioner
Hi gents,
I have picked up my repaired engine. Now for some painting to the block and head and front suspension overhaul/paint before engine is installed.
I have an update on the inoperative timing chain tensioner. Apparently when the mounting bolts were tightened up the plunger/rubber pad assembly jammed against the timing cover so it was barely providing tension on the chain. Obviously missed by the installer!
So, tensioner and guides sorted (chains & sprockets all serviceable), replacement XJ S3 camshafts fitted and valve clearances done, water pump and crankshaft damper refurbished and flywheel machined and balanced. Hopefully all is quiet and oil tight upon restart
Cheers,
Pete
I have picked up my repaired engine. Now for some painting to the block and head and front suspension overhaul/paint before engine is installed.
I have an update on the inoperative timing chain tensioner. Apparently when the mounting bolts were tightened up the plunger/rubber pad assembly jammed against the timing cover so it was barely providing tension on the chain. Obviously missed by the installer!
So, tensioner and guides sorted (chains & sprockets all serviceable), replacement XJ S3 camshafts fitted and valve clearances done, water pump and crankshaft damper refurbished and flywheel machined and balanced. Hopefully all is quiet and oil tight upon restart
Cheers,
Pete
Pete
61 E-Type FHC Opalescent Golden Sand
69 XJ6 4.2 MOD Old English White - one previous owner
18 F Pace S 30d Fuji White - shopping trolley
63 MGB Roadster Aintree Green - my dads from new
61 E-Type FHC Opalescent Golden Sand
69 XJ6 4.2 MOD Old English White - one previous owner
18 F Pace S 30d Fuji White - shopping trolley
63 MGB Roadster Aintree Green - my dads from new
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#8 Re: Timing chain tensioner
How did the chain tensioner touch the timing cover? Did you use the flat plate behind the pad to stop it rotating?
Pete
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#9 Re: Timing chain tensioner
Pete, this was an engine rebuild that was done in 2005 before I bought the car in 2007. Presumably the flat plate wasn’t fitted if that is what has allowed the plunger to jam against the cover. My repairer did show me a new tensioner and flat plate to explain the problem he found so I’d reckon that’s what he meant. I was still a bit shaky from handing over the cash!
Pete
61 E-Type FHC Opalescent Golden Sand
69 XJ6 4.2 MOD Old English White - one previous owner
18 F Pace S 30d Fuji White - shopping trolley
63 MGB Roadster Aintree Green - my dads from new
61 E-Type FHC Opalescent Golden Sand
69 XJ6 4.2 MOD Old English White - one previous owner
18 F Pace S 30d Fuji White - shopping trolley
63 MGB Roadster Aintree Green - my dads from new
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