Series 2 aesthetics

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#241 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by MarekH » Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:51 pm

The v12 in the s3 from 1971 was more thirsty than the 6 cylinder car with its straight 6 and with a 3.56 rear differential, it had a very low range to boot. This meant a larger fuel tank was required and that is why the boot does not taper upwards as with the earlier cars.

I doubt that Jaguar realised all of that when the s2 came out, so it's probably the other way around:- the same Lucas lights were kept but the tailboard was removed as the cheapest and easiest way to design in the larger needed fuel tank.

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#242 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by 288gto » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:04 pm

A little bit of an update. The Elan lights are now fitted.

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#243 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Gfhug » Sat Mar 28, 2020 10:06 am

Simon, that looks very nice :yellow:
The slimmer central bumper works well, another good idea :salute:

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#244 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Jeff Cecil » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:58 pm

288gto wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:04 pm
A little bit of an update. The Elan lights are now fitted.

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Did you remove the original outer bracket? How did you seal the rear of the lights (if you removed the rear cans)? Were the lights moved inboard? It appears that moving them closer to the body will eliminate the light from sticking out and will let the body lines from the side "flow" better. A few more pictures (rear of the light housing, side view of the body line, modified rear body panel, mounting method ) would be nice to see.
What I can see is certainly an improvement from original.

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#245 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by 1954Etype » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:04 pm

Looks lovely but I’m more concerned about that white prop holding the boot lid open. I mean at least paint it in body colour!
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#246 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by MarekH » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:47 pm

288gto wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:04 pm
A little bit of an update. The Elan lights are now fitted.
Dear Simon,

How much does a set of Elan lights cost please, if you don't mind my asking?

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#247 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by 288gto » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 pm

Thanks chaps,

Marek,

I'd already bought the S2 complete units from Barratts so just needed the lenses. They were about £40 each.
The light housing is basically the same but without the reverse light bulb holder so I just added holders from RS Components which were £7 for 10.
I decided to swap the bullet connectors for Supaseal ones to prevent water ingress and also so the connections were less likely to get muddled up.
I like idea of integrated led units but decided to go the route of retaining individual bulbs just incase they ever need replacing.

Jeff,

I'll take more pics when I get chance. They original lamp backing was used but the mounting holes altered to allow the lamp to tuck up under the bumper better and move inboard slightly. I then made black powder coated fillets to fill the gaps at the side with rubber seals.

1954Etype wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:04 pm
Looks lovely but I’m more concerned about that white prop holding the boot lid open. I mean at least paint it in body colour!
Angus,

I can't tell you how much it annoys me that the boot lid comes to rest at 3/4 open. I spent ages (days) aligning the boot lid and the latch so it's all perfect only to find it probably needs an extra spring :cussing: A job for you when comes to you. Your guys can probably do it blindfolded. :yellow: and still not worry about chipping or scratching something.
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#248 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by MSM » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:37 pm

MarekH wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:47 pm
288gto wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:04 pm
A little bit of an update. The Elan lights are now fitted.
Dear Simon,

How much does a set of Elan lights cost please, if you don't mind my asking?

kind regards
Marek
I'm sure Marek knows that the answer is not cheap.

https://www.holden.co.uk/p/lucas_l807_t ... lamp_lotus
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#249 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Jeff Cecil » Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:26 pm

Simon, after your description of the "fillets", I clicked on the picture without the lenses and then clicked on it again to enlarge even farther. It appears that you have drilled a hole in the lower body and riveted the fillets in place. Not sure about drilling holes in the body to fit those up, but it's your car. Maybe I'm mistaken. If you removed the original outer lamp bracket, which it appears you did, you could have done the MGB lights easily with no drilling of the body. But I do understand the desire to have your "own" modifications to your liking.
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If you click on my photo it will enlarge. If you click on it again, it will enlarge further. As you can see, the MGB light contour on the bottom of the body curves exactly with the body line. You can also see that there is a small portion of the rear panel showing. I am in the process of fabricating a small stainless panel to cover the rear panel in a continuation of the rear stainless panel that I trimmed and left in place to more resemble the look of the series 2 rear panel. I may also make closing panels for the inboard ends of the lights to cover the fabricated brackets that butt up to the over riders.

I am still very interested in seeing more pictures of your mod.

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#250 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by 288gto » Sun Mar 29, 2020 2:57 pm

Hi Jeff,

No drilling into the body. Everything I do in terms of "mods" on the car is with the proviso that it is reversible.
It was my intention to get the fillets painted body colour and use a different seal but Covid 19 got in the way of that plan. To make the best of the next 12 weeks I want to press on and get as much built up as possible and tested/working. I can always come back to the lights at a later date.
The filler pieces are attached to the existing bracket for the lights.

A few more pics as requested.
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#251 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Jeff Cecil » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:20 pm

Thanks for the pictures. What I thought was a rivet was just a reflection. The fillet you mention appears to be what i am after to cover paint of the rear panel and make the stainless panel appear to be continuous to the outer body curve. Here is a picture of close to the same side angle with the MGB lights.
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#252 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Jeff Cecil » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:27 pm

Here is one at near the same angle for comparison.
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#253 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by 288gto » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:15 pm

Cheers Jeff,

Yours definitely follow the curve of the body better. All that is needed ( in my humble opinion ) is some sort of filler piece where the arrow is pointing to make them perfect.
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#254 Re: Series 2 aesthetics

Post by Jeff Cecil » Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:45 pm

Hi Simon, yes I have been playing with it some. At first I cut a piece of stainless for the area and used the outer bracket to secure it. It looked really good, but I am now looking for a small clear/white light in that shape to use as an reversing light. The area is large enough to provide sufficient light for reversing if both sides are used and maybe LEDs. My car being white, they should blend in fairly well. I don't drive the car much at night, but I got the idea and I am looking around for something that might fit there. I don't care if it extends behind the MG light because there is room there and wouldn't be seen.

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