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#1 S1 Interior mirror

Post by Gfhug » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:33 pm

Does anyone know if the S1 FHC interior rear view mirror will fit the S2?
Can feel what could be a securing hole in the roof where it might be attached.
I need a new mirror but wanted to check first.

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Post by Heuer » Mon Nov 09, 2015 6:39 pm

There should be three holes with captive nuts:
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Post by rolando38 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:52 pm

that's a good idea as the glued mirror on S2 does not seems to stay in place
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Post by Gfhug » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:33 pm

Thank you David
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Post by Gfhug » Tue Nov 10, 2015 2:01 pm

David, any chance of giving me a couple of measurements, please?
From top of bracket to bottom of mirror and width of mirror.

I may have found a later alternate at a lower price than the original, but want to check if it'd fit.

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Post by PeterCrespin » Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:13 pm

Gfhug wrote:David, any chance of giving me a couple of measurements, please?
From top of bracket to bottom of mirror and width of mirror.

I may have found a later alternate at a lower price than the original, but want to check if it'd fit.

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The foot pattern is the same on many Jags but angle varies. There's a wedge-shaped alloy shim to vary it between models. I think it may be a 3-hole nut plate rather than captive nuts, so it could be missing from S2 with glued-on mirrors?
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Post by Gfhug » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:02 pm

Peter, thank you for your comments. I don't have a proper mirror, only a cheap after market stick on one. I've seen one from an XJ6/12 and was considering buying that, but the arm might be a bit shorter than needed, hence the dimension questions. Didn't want to replace a non-sticking stick-on with another stick on mirror.

The fixing holes can be felt under the roof lining, maybe large self tappers would work if the nut-plate is missing.

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Post by rolando38 » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:03 pm

the problem is that testing would ruin the roof lining if unsuccessfull
unless someone is currently restoring a series 2 and can check before installing a new ceiling
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Post by Gfhug » Tue Nov 10, 2015 4:31 pm

rolando38 wrote:unless someone is currently restoring a series 2 and can check before installing a new ceiling
Angus, would you know?
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Post by 1954Etype » Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:34 pm

From what l have seen the holes are there and one customer has fitted one to his S2 car.

You should be able to undo the 2 self tappers that hold the forward strip of headlining on in order to be able to see if you have the holes and captives.

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Post by Gfhug » Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:41 pm

Thanks, Angus

Would still appreciate that measurement, top of bracket to bottom of mirror, if anyone can help. Thanks
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Post by PeterCrespin » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:20 am

Gfhug wrote:The fixing holes can be felt under the roof lining, maybe large self tappers would work if the nut-plate is missing.

Geoff
The problem is the heads are special and sit in a recess in the bracket IIRC. As Angus says, dropping the trim panel should do for a check.
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Post by Gfhug » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:48 am

Have the holes but not the captives. Have lots of captive nuts in stock so can easily make up the back plate.
This is what I was thinking of getting, but is the arm too short?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-DAIMLE ... 1122083908
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Post by Heuer » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:26 pm

Original interior mirror is 8" wide and about 6.5" from top of bracket to bottom of mirror depending on how you have the mirror angled. So slightly smaller than the XJ6 one.
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Post by Gfhug » Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:15 pm

Thanks David, will get that ordered and make up a plate to fit it.

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Post by Polse7317 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:10 am

Gfhug, may be it can help you?
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Y have the "same" problem to change the glass without damaging the aluminium case.
How is fixed the glass behind? is it correct to softly open the aluminium case and the glass will be easyly changed?

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Post by Gfhug » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:29 am

Yves, sorry I can't help as I did not replace the glass in an old mirror, but bought a mirror that fits a different Jaguar (XJ6 Series1). If you look at the link in my posting above you will see the complete unit (arm and mirror) I bought.

That mirror and arm fits into my S2 using the locating holes in the headlining as for the S1 E Type.
The mirror is slightly larger than the S1 mirror and slightly interferes with the visors, but not to a significant amount.

Hopefully someone else can advise how to change the glass.

BTW, it's a British car so all measurements should be inches :lol:

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Post by neal herridge » Fri Nov 20, 2015 4:59 pm

I have just removed the glass from my mirror to replace the arm , although my car is 1965 with a different arm to yours.
Yes you can just spring the case apart I slid a knife blade around the case under the glass very carefully and the glass comes out.
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Post by Polse7317 » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:04 pm

The glass is sticked on a plate Under?
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