S1 headlight chrome fitting

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#1 S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by ollieoscarsid » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:05 pm

Hi all, just wondering what experiences others have had with repro headlight chromes. I have a new pair of chrome/brass units of unknown origin (ebay 😱) look superb, but proving a tad troublesome to fit.. its an un damaged original bonnet, unfortunately I don’t have any originals to offer up. Just wondering if I’ve bought some expensive scrap or if the ones supplied by Sng etc are any better. Cheers. Chris.
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#2 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by Series1 Stu » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:42 pm

My experience was similar to yours.

I bought reproduction chrome trim from one of the usuals and there was no way on Earth that they were ever going to fit my original bonnet.

On returning them I was informed that they only fit reproduction bonnets.

Fortunately, I had a couple of sets of originals which just needed a little work and a re-chrome to get them back to original condition.

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#3 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by Jeremy » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:51 pm

I can't say I'm surprised Chris.
I struggled mightily with mine and they were the originals, AND Robeys had fitted them when fettling the (new) bonnet. I tried longer screws, some with sharpened ends, in my increasingly desperate attempts to get the damned threads to engage. Then if they were too long they bottomed out.....grrrr.
Eventually I replaced the original glasses with Mark Clapp's (thinner) perspex jobs, and it was better, so you might try that. But it took Angus and his boys to get them looking right. They still leak in the rain BTW...
Oh - do make sure you have the softer rubbers from COH Haines, which I believe all the usuals now sell.
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Post by abowie » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:09 pm

I'm doing this at the moment. It's just a totally bastard job.
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#5 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by Geoff Allam » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:47 pm

FWIW I just bought 2 new trim rings from SNG. Still waiting on delivery to see how fit is but in conversation with the sales rep I was told that they now manufacture their own pieces that are modelled on an original bonnet. I was told that so far the feedback has been that the fit is good but as expected there is still some variation between bonnets. Unfortunately I will not be in a position to judge as my bonnet has had previous repairs on both sides and I will be fitting the bonnet to the trim. I would love to hear if anyone has purchased the new sng part and how the fit is.
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#6 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by ALAN COCHRANE » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:51 am

+1 for Mark Clapp's perspex headlight covers. They are deliberately made oversized so you can trim them to size. I had to buy a new crown ring and the flexibility of the perspex was a godsend.
A trick I learned was to push nails through all the screws holes in order to locate the crown ring before inserting any screws.
However the final assembly, no matter how good, will leak into the sugar scoops. The main cuplrit on my car is the seam above the headlamp bowls.

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#7 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by ollieoscarsid » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:52 pm

Thanks gents, all points noted. I’ve since realised that I have an oem right hand chrome, and it fits beautifully...needs new chrome but so does everything else.
If anyone out there has an oem left side I’d be interested
Many thanks. Chris.
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#8 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by mgcjag » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:59 pm

Hi Chris...post in the Wanted section...Steve
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#9 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by ollieoscarsid » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:24 pm

Will do Steve. Thanks.
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#10 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by Series1 Stu » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:22 pm

ollieoscarsid wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:52 pm
Thanks gents, all points noted. I’ve since realised that I have an oem right hand chrome, and it fits beautifully...needs new chrome but so does everything else.
If anyone out there has an oem left side I’d be interested
Many thanks. Chris.
I have an odd trim but not sure whether its left or right side. Won't be at the workshop before Sunday. Will have a look then.

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#11 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by ollieoscarsid » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:32 am

Morning Stuart, great. Will wait to hear. Thank you. Chris.
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#12 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by Bill Michigan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:27 pm

I’m sure others have observed this obvious irony: Jaguar created the most beautiful, artistic, eye-catching and absolutely perfect chrome headlight rings to surround and emphasize the weakest headlights since brass-era gas lamps. To me, this seems to be an even more appropriate subject for the famous comment once made by a Ford employee in regards to puttinging the first Mustang body on running gear from the Ford Falcon: “It’s like putting falsies on Grandma.”

(Uh, feel free to reject or delete)

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#13 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by MarkRado » Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:43 am

The headlights are actually quite good, when you do the relay upgrade and fit halogen bulbs.
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#14 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by rswaffie » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:58 am

:yeahthat:
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#15 Re: S1 headlight chrome fitting

Post by alfazagato » Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:29 pm

Perhaps a good reason to buy a series 1.5!
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