Headlining change and fitting
#1 Headlining change and fitting
I have to change the headlining (although in a very good state) as it?s falling down. I would like to ask those who already done the job to give me some advices about suppliers, the best way to proceed and things to avoid. Some pictures would be very useful. I have some clues about the job found in Chris Rooke book. Thank you very much in advance.
Stephane
FHC 1966
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#2
Here's a link to tip on headliner replacement found on the Jag-lovers site:
http://www.jag-lovers.org/e-type/body.html#headliner
I can't vouch for the information given, as I haven't done that particular job, however it would seem to me to be a good idea to remove the seats to gain working room and protect them from drippy bits and messy fingers. Covering the carpets and vinyl trim might not be a bad idea either.
http://www.jag-lovers.org/e-type/body.html#headliner
I can't vouch for the information given, as I haven't done that particular job, however it would seem to me to be a good idea to remove the seats to gain working room and protect them from drippy bits and messy fingers. Covering the carpets and vinyl trim might not be a bad idea either.
Andy Blackley
Chardon, Ohio
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#3
Very timely post as this is the restoration job I have planned for tonight...
A tad scared as I have never attempted this before but I will report back as I have been reading everything I can find on the subject and have spoken to the likes of Mike Turley about best methods...
A tad scared as I have never attempted this before but I will report back as I have been reading everything I can find on the subject and have spoken to the likes of Mike Turley about best methods...
1964 FHC 4.2
Etype restoration blog http://connor.org.uk
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Good luck Chris.ChrisC wrote:Very timely post as this is the restoration job I have planned for tonight...
A tad scared as I have never attempted this before but I will report back as I have been reading everything I can find on the subject and have spoken to the likes of Mike Turley about best methods...
As far as I am concerned I am still waiting for the material I ordered to start the headlining replacement. I have also read a lot of articles about this job and I don?t think it?s that difficult, it?s just a matter of being methodical and work tidily. I?m just not sure if I?ll have to take off the cant rails (those trimmed in vinyl). What brand of contact glue are you going to use?
Stephane
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#5
Well thats it the roof lining is done :)
I have posted the full "how I did it" in my restoration post...
To be fair its NOT that hard - but boy is it scary. Not too sure that you can follow the way I did it though as my interior is totally stripped out and there are no windows fitted etc... but I WAS on my own so for what its worth my technique worked
http://www.etypeuk.com/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=220
I wish you the same luck Stephane :)
I have posted the full "how I did it" in my restoration post...
To be fair its NOT that hard - but boy is it scary. Not too sure that you can follow the way I did it though as my interior is totally stripped out and there are no windows fitted etc... but I WAS on my own so for what its worth my technique worked
http://www.etypeuk.com/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=220
I wish you the same luck Stephane :)
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#6
Jolly good! This is a very nice job. I hope I?ll be as good as you. Are you going to post the cant rails trimming?
PS:Thank you very much for taking pictures of your work during this stressful time.
PS:Thank you very much for taking pictures of your work during this stressful time.
Stephane
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#7
Well.... I know the professional trimmers dont like doing the actual cant rails because they are so difficult. So for me to try and do them I assumed that difficult would mean "impossible". So I paid Mike to do them for me.
But if you mean the metal strip that is part of the roof - then yes I will capture doing that for my blog anyway along with many other parts of the retrim.
Whether I do it right or not is an entirely different question
But if you mean the metal strip that is part of the roof - then yes I will capture doing that for my blog anyway along with many other parts of the retrim.
Whether I do it right or not is an entirely different question
1964 FHC 4.2
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#8
I finally received the trimming material. Now I have to remove the cant rails (vinyl trimming). Could somebody tell me the best way to do it?
Stephane
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Its probably more work than you want to do... but there is no other way that I can see
From memory...
The cant rails are screwed on from the outside of the car... so the rubber door seals stuck to the bodywork at the top of the door needs to come off. then remove the quarter lights plus the rubber seals between the body and the quarter lights. With all the rubber removed you should be able to see some fairly small screws (viewed from outside the car). undoing these releases the cant rail. the pop rivets in the quarterlight channel are not connected to the cant rail so dont remove those.
I have only removed these items once - so my memory might be failing me.
From memory...
The cant rails are screwed on from the outside of the car... so the rubber door seals stuck to the bodywork at the top of the door needs to come off. then remove the quarter lights plus the rubber seals between the body and the quarter lights. With all the rubber removed you should be able to see some fairly small screws (viewed from outside the car). undoing these releases the cant rail. the pop rivets in the quarterlight channel are not connected to the cant rail so dont remove those.
I have only removed these items once - so my memory might be failing me.
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Thank you Chris. I remember the happy spring time when I renewed all the door/window seals...so here we go again 
Stephane
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#11
I have just done the next step of the roof.
If you want to follow my progress its in my running restoration post...
If you want to follow my progress its in my running restoration post...
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#12
It seems that the first part of the headlining replacement was the easy one
Congratulation again, very nice job.
Congratulation again, very nice job.
Stephane
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#13
Job done thanks to your advices. Here is the story in pictures
It all started with that

The headlining was falling down, the foam pad was completely cooked; one part of it still on the material the other on the roof and the third part transformed in powder in between

The roof now cleaned?

I can start to put the material on the peripheral rail

Some protection is needed before gluing the roof
Gluing the new material on the new foam pad; a band of about 4 centimetres wasn?t glued (protected by masking tape) on each of the two parts outline to allow adjustment when put in place

The gluing was made one half at a time

Done and flattened with a new tool (inspired by Chris Rooke "How to find new tools in the kitchen")

The new headlining and foam pad glued and ready to be adjusted to the roof starting at the front

I put a sheet of paper on to avoid any problem with the glued roof and headlining meeting during the front adjustment (as the contact glue is dry by the touch the Kraft paper barely sticks to it like a ?Post-It?)

The headlining now in place (no it's not a stain only reflected light...)

The secret tool (courtesy Peter Crespin) the other one being a kitchen spatula (courtesy Chris Rooke)

In situ

To be continued with the sun visors trimming?
Open the sun visors cutting the outline stitch

Loosen the material

Glue the edges and fold the sun visor cardboard before gluing the second half of it (if not you won?t have enough material glued on the cardboard)

Cut the excess material along the hedge living a 1,5 cm band, glue it and fold it on the cardboard

Now glue the2 metal flap sides (protect the outline with masking tape to avoid glue on the very edge) and close the sun visor

Done. I'll have the edges stitched at a shoe mender?s or saddler?s

It all started with that

The headlining was falling down, the foam pad was completely cooked; one part of it still on the material the other on the roof and the third part transformed in powder in between

The roof now cleaned?

I can start to put the material on the peripheral rail

Some protection is needed before gluing the roof
Gluing the new material on the new foam pad; a band of about 4 centimetres wasn?t glued (protected by masking tape) on each of the two parts outline to allow adjustment when put in place

The gluing was made one half at a time

Done and flattened with a new tool (inspired by Chris Rooke "How to find new tools in the kitchen")

The new headlining and foam pad glued and ready to be adjusted to the roof starting at the front

I put a sheet of paper on to avoid any problem with the glued roof and headlining meeting during the front adjustment (as the contact glue is dry by the touch the Kraft paper barely sticks to it like a ?Post-It?)

The headlining now in place (no it's not a stain only reflected light...)

The secret tool (courtesy Peter Crespin) the other one being a kitchen spatula (courtesy Chris Rooke)

In situ

To be continued with the sun visors trimming?
Open the sun visors cutting the outline stitch

Loosen the material

Glue the edges and fold the sun visor cardboard before gluing the second half of it (if not you won?t have enough material glued on the cardboard)

Cut the excess material along the hedge living a 1,5 cm band, glue it and fold it on the cardboard

Now glue the2 metal flap sides (protect the outline with masking tape to avoid glue on the very edge) and close the sun visor

Done. I'll have the edges stitched at a shoe mender?s or saddler?s

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Stephane
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Well done Sir.... I like the credit card idea. I will file that for next time (he says laughing)
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#15
Excellent job St?phane. Looks very nice with cloth rather than brushed nylon. Seems some of my French was readable :-)
Pete
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Thanks a lot for you help and encouragements Chris.ChrisC wrote:Well done Sir.... I like the credit card idea. I will file that for next time (he says laughing)
Stephane
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Thanks a lot Pete. Votre fran?ais est aussi bon que vos conseils pour r?aliser ce travail. Encore merci.PeterCrespin wrote:Excellent job St?phane. Looks very nice with cloth rather than brushed nylon. Seems some of my French was readable :-)
Pete
Stephane
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