Series 1 FHC & new F Type

[Kent Thirley]

My Neighbour who works for a well known daily newspaper has the pleasure of using all kinds of fine motor cars.
This is his car for the week from the Jaguar Press department.
It is a V8 with the most fabulous sound track in a modern car that I have heard in a long time.
We thought it would be a great idea to snap the cars together this morning.
I really like it in the Red! :D [/url]
Kent

[PeterCrespin]

By coincidence I've just finished writing the story an hour ago of the F-type's first victory last Sunday, which somewhat echoes the E-type's first win at Oulton in 61. The event was not really in the same league as the 1961 race but it was still a victory.

There was a V6 that colour and a black V8S at the slalom event this weekend in Columbia South Carolina. The V6 was about 0.75 second slower than the V8S, but that reflects the short tight course where neither car can really stretch its legs. On a full circuit the V8 would be further ahead I guess.

However, even with the computer driver aids switched off (which enhances throttle response, albeit to the point of riskiness) the F-types still couldn't beat a race-prepped FHC on slicks driven by the same driver. Even with me at the wheel later I beat the F-type time, albeit I was about 2 seconds slower than the prior runs. That car is a specialized slalom car in a different class though, so the street-rubber F-type still scored its win.

Agree totally about the snapping and crackling exhaust note, which is a tune Jaguar were playing on the F-types they brought to the Challenge Championship last June as well.

[richard btype]

I'm sure that the new F type is a fabulous car to drive and the photo really does bring in to sharp contrast just how large and heavy a modern car has become.

I now firmly believe this effects the way we drive our cars particularly on the back road twisties. I cannot really work this out except that it must be attributed to size and weight and not speed - I would be interested with others views on this.

The reason I make these comments is that along fast and flowing B roads in the UK I often find myself coming up against a line of traffic say 2 or 3 cars travelling at 40 ish when one can make safe progress at for example 60.

But the trailing cars rarely make a move to pass, seemingly content to have their pace dictated by the slow leading car for mile after mile.

As an example I use a 1995 BMW M3 for my everyday driving 0-60 5.6 secs weight 1485 kg and I have to ready myself to make a pass i.e. it is not instinctive. My former everyday car which I still own but now use on a limited mileage basis the first M3 from 1990 - 0-60 6.2 secs weight 1200kg. The overtaking move is never a case of if but when and is totally instinctive...

[Heuer]

Went to a birthday party the other week in the Elan:



A to B across country the Elan would be quicker because you have so much more road to work with. It also seems to un-nerve other drivers and they give us lots of space.

[richard btype]

David

Do you ever feel vulnerable in the Elan? I tend to when 'contemplating' that I'm basically sitting above air but don't tend to when actually driving...

Given the M3 analogy the later car is just 30mm wider - as they say what's in an inch?

Like the look of those barn's in the back ground - once sealed, damp proofed and good lighting would make for a lovely playroom!

[Heuer]

Never consciously felt vulnerable driving it as it go's, stops and corners much better than a modern car - it only weighs 14.5 cwt. Its size means if a truck or errant car is over the white line you have room to manoeuvre. Besides at 60mph you feel you are doing 90!

[Kent Thirley]

My Series 1 made it into the article in todays Sunday Sun Motoring with Jake Humphrey.

[Alty Ian]

Hi I have had a S3 E type 2+2 for many years and just bought a new V6 F type in red like the one above. It's an amazing car, totally different driving experience from the E and the exhaust is wonderful, especially when I switch on the active exhaust and put it in race mode. Looking forward to getting it on the track like I did with the E type recently. No comparison with handling but the E is such fun to drive fast on a dry track, but very hairy in the wet!

I think its a genuine successor to the E type in every way, looks, performance and sound.

[PeterCrespin]

Agree totally. Are you related to David Alty of the Wirral in any way?

Pete

[Alty Ian]

Agree totally. Are you related to David Alty of the Wirral in any way?

Pete

No, Alty is where I live !

[Durango2k]

... which reminds me of a plate with embossed "Acaster Malbis" I found in our shed.

I asked my father ... and he said he was 20 by then, drunk as could be, took it and carried it back home, so it must be 50 yrs old now....

Carsten

[Simon P]

That's better! They've decided to make a proper one with a roof! :D



More on it here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default ... ryId=28857

The supercharged 5-litre V8 'R' version sounds a bit of a beast.....

(Call me picky, but I can't help feeling that the elegant simplicity of the roofline only helps draw attention to just how clumsy is the treatment of the front end. Maybe just serves to highlight again what a perfectly balanced design Sayers achieved with the E-type)

[PeterCrespin]

'Balanced' visually perhaps but not that great aerodynamically. The pretty front end tends to lift at very high speeds in a way that would not be acceptable today. Curing that tendency leaves you with a less pretty but more functional front end. And remember that to get effective cooling on cars fitted with air conditioning (as fitted to the F- type) Jaguar had to abandon the S1 oval and go for something larger on the S2 supplemented by a big scoop underneath in the S3. I would guess the intake area on an F is only about 50% bigger than an S3 for double the power and far less lift?

Peter

[Paul Buckley]

Acaster Malbis?

Spent many a happy hour in the Ship Inn at Acaster Malbis.
It is the last non tidal village on the River Ouse, about five miles downstream from York, before the Ouse
becomes tidal.
In fact my S3 OTS was there only a month or so back, taking advantage of the great weather we had.

[Paul Buckley]

Oops! I didn't realise how old this thread was, not that it matters too much!

[PeterCrespin]

Nice to see a non-standard S3.

[BRM]

Agree. I've never liked the look of the S3 as much as the earlier series but that looks fantastic.