When things don’t go to plan

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#1 When things don’t go to plan

Post by tim wood » Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:06 pm

On one of the hottest days of the year I decided to fit a modern starter. A tricky enough job on a complete car at the best of times
Without explaining how I managed to drop a pair of needle nose pliers which promptly fell through the vacant hole into the bell housing.

Panic ensued with thoughts of engine out.
Pacified by my ever helpful wife she managed to locate them with an endoscope camera attached to the phone. Nestling at the bottom of the flywheel .
Managed to get the cover plate off and wrestle the pliers out.

Time for a cold beer I think.
Series 1 FHC purchased 50 years ago. Courted my wife in it.
Series 1 2+2 when the kids were small now sold.
Series 1.5 OTS in opalescent maroon, Californian car. My retirement present.

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#2 Re: When things don’t go to plan

Post by mgcjag » Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:51 pm

Steve
69 S2 2+2 (sold) ..Realm C type replica, 1960 xk150fhc

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#3 Re: When things don’t go to plan

Post by tim wood » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:09 pm

Thanks Steve,
I’ve read the posts on this which don’t seem too conclusive.
I purchased the unit from Rob Beere who said that not to use the plate and that’s how he routinely fits them.
The unit is made by powerlite and the instructions specifically mention to use the plate !
So total confusion.

I spoke again to Rob who is going to check again on Monday and let me know.
I’ll update this post accordingly.

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Series 1 FHC purchased 50 years ago. Courted my wife in it.
Series 1 2+2 when the kids were small now sold.
Series 1.5 OTS in opalescent maroon, Californian car. My retirement present.

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#4 Re: When things don’t go to plan

Post by mgcjag » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:18 pm

Hi Tim.....do not fit a high torque unless you actually measure yourself and are satisfied do not rely on others telling you they fit......the spigot plate isn't just a spacer it's also a closing plate for the apature in the bellhouseing and it ensures correct alignment of the starter to the flywheel....iv had quite a few different makes/models.on my bench to test...they all went back as unsuitable for a 4.2...I reverted to the original that fits and works correctly...Steve
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#5 Re: When things don’t go to plan

Post by chrisfell » Sun Jun 29, 2025 9:44 pm

“do not fit a high torque unless you actually measure yourself and are satisfied do not rely on others“

:yeahthat:

I measured mine and determined the spacer was needed.

As always, YMMV.
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#6 Re: When things don’t go to plan

Post by tim wood » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:54 am

Update,
Rob Beere has responded promptly this morning having done the measurements and is categoric that the spacer needs to be in place.
I’ll measure myself anyway but Mr Beere is a trusted source.
Using the spacer/spigot solves the issue of closing off the aperture and ensuring correct location.


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#7 Re: When things don’t go to plan

Post by mgcjag » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:43 am

With a Powerlite unit it very much depends what unit you have and where it comes from....I raised this issue with SNGB over their Powerlite units....as far as im aware they returned all their units and had them modified....I have so far not seen any high torque starter that engages anywhere near fully with the flywheel ...Steve
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