birch grey ?

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#1 birch grey ?

Post by Polse7317 » Wed May 26, 2021 12:57 pm

Next to the E i am working on a XK 140 (nuts and bolts restoration ....!) and my question is about the BIRCH GREY color that i want to keep as it was its birth color !
I have the original chemistry formulation By " DUPONT" AXALTA or PPG NEXA AUTOCOLOR but no one around here can indicate the present formulation !
May be someone here can ?
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Yves, happy XKE 63 fhc , w113 280sl owner
Looking for a OTS 4.2 serie 1....! :scratchheadyellow: and now have found a fhc xk 140 :lol:

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#2 Re: birch grey ?

Post by christopher storey » Wed May 26, 2021 2:27 pm

Yves : those are definitely not the original formulations, as the Dupont is clearly for a 2 pack paint, and I suspect the PPG is also with its "adjuster" added. For a 140 what you need is the original cellulose formulation as Jaguar had gone over ( about 1951 as I recall ) to cellulose from enamel well before the introduction of the 140

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#3 Re: birch grey ?

Post by Polse7317 » Wed May 26, 2021 6:56 pm

Thank's christopher and have you an idea where i can find that cellulose formulation ? :scratchheadyellow:
Yves, happy XKE 63 fhc , w113 280sl owner
Looking for a OTS 4.2 serie 1....! :scratchheadyellow: and now have found a fhc xk 140 :lol:

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#4 Re: birch grey ?

Post by mgcjag » Wed May 26, 2021 7:02 pm

Hi Yves....the guys on JagLovers have a lot of information on paint formulas ...they have a XK section...worth trying there....Steve
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#5 Re: birch grey ?

Post by Polse7317 » Wed May 26, 2021 7:05 pm

Thank's Steve i'll try there :policeblue:
Yves, happy XKE 63 fhc , w113 280sl owner
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#6 Re: birch grey ?

Post by ysmalkie » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:21 pm

Do you still need help?

I may be able to help on this one.

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#7 Re: birch grey ?

Post by Polse7317 » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:01 am

Thank's Tadek i have found the actual reference:
from AXALTA , CHROMAX Centori 6000 , birch grey or gris Birch
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#8 Re: birch grey ?

Post by ysmalkie » Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:42 pm

I found my data on this an comment from Roger Payne who was comparing it to the original swatches.

So, the RM Formula is:
SC01 93.0 gr
SC90 513.9 gr
SC25 926.9 gr
SC10 1076.1 gr
SC67 1108.3 gr
SC46 1123.5 gr

Roger's comments were as follows::
Zofelac Match - quite different
Synthetic Match - good match, although too glossy.

If you want to go for the original, try the RM.

I have produced sets of swatches few years ago, but they are all gone - I have one set left for myself.

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