Interesting Discussion
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#1 Interesting Discussion
Hello,
Here is an interesting debate involving the great and the good of the E Type world.
https://www.classicandsportscar.com/fea ... 00AO2YEQA1
Interesting how the majority favour the 3.8 FHC, until it comes to those that make their living from the cars.
Regards
Here is an interesting debate involving the great and the good of the E Type world.
https://www.classicandsportscar.com/fea ... 00AO2YEQA1
Interesting how the majority favour the 3.8 FHC, until it comes to those that make their living from the cars.
Regards
Stuart
If you can't make it work, make it complicated!
'62 FHC - Nearing completion
'69 Daimler 420 Sovereign
'78 Land Rover Series 3 109
If you can't make it work, make it complicated!
'62 FHC - Nearing completion
'69 Daimler 420 Sovereign
'78 Land Rover Series 3 109
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#2 Re: Interesting Discussion
I havent counted but looks a good spread between original 3.8....and the improved S1 4.2......Steve
Steve
69 S2 2+2 (just sold) ..Realm C type replica, 1960 xk150fhc
69 S2 2+2 (just sold) ..Realm C type replica, 1960 xk150fhc
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Impossible to answer as it depends on what you want to use the car for.
I prefer the S1 4.2 (Fixed head first then OTS) as they are such a well sorted car. I think you still have to upgrade the brakes and fit a better cooling fan. Having said that, my own 67 FHC had completed 84k miles in California with standard brakes and fan.....
I prefer the S1 4.2 (Fixed head first then OTS) as they are such a well sorted car. I think you still have to upgrade the brakes and fit a better cooling fan. Having said that, my own 67 FHC had completed 84k miles in California with standard brakes and fan.....
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#4 Re: Interesting Discussion
The overweaning conceit of choosing your own bowdlerised version as the most beautiful takes some beating !!
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#5 Re: Interesting Discussion
You've taught me a new word, thanks Christopher.
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Stuart
If you can't make it work, make it complicated!
'62 FHC - Nearing completion
'69 Daimler 420 Sovereign
'78 Land Rover Series 3 109
If you can't make it work, make it complicated!
'62 FHC - Nearing completion
'69 Daimler 420 Sovereign
'78 Land Rover Series 3 109
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Overweaning conceit indeed..... a vein I should continue.
I like my 2+2 for all its shortcomings - all of which are visual. From a variety of angles it fails Gordon Murray's test. From the rear quarter it looks hunch-backed, from the front it seems to be wearing a top hat. But from the one angle that really matters, overlooking the bonnet from the driving seat, it carries none of these detriments but all of the original car's charm - the same bonnet; the same engine; the same interior.
And then there are the benefits unique to this model. I can get in and out of the car without disarticulating my 65 year old spine. I can sit in the (modified and higher than standard) seat without my head touching the head lining or my eyeline being blocked by the top of the windscreen. I can carry a fortnight's change of clothing for two and a comprehensive tool box and a box of spare parts without filling the cabin to the roof.
And despite its ungainly and inept looks it is as spritely as a 1980/90s hot hatch.
Finally, because it is the most unfancied and least valuable of all bodystyles, I have no problems in driving my car as if it were a daily driver (salted roads excluded).
I like my 2+2 for all its shortcomings - all of which are visual. From a variety of angles it fails Gordon Murray's test. From the rear quarter it looks hunch-backed, from the front it seems to be wearing a top hat. But from the one angle that really matters, overlooking the bonnet from the driving seat, it carries none of these detriments but all of the original car's charm - the same bonnet; the same engine; the same interior.
And then there are the benefits unique to this model. I can get in and out of the car without disarticulating my 65 year old spine. I can sit in the (modified and higher than standard) seat without my head touching the head lining or my eyeline being blocked by the top of the windscreen. I can carry a fortnight's change of clothing for two and a comprehensive tool box and a box of spare parts without filling the cabin to the roof.
And despite its ungainly and inept looks it is as spritely as a 1980/90s hot hatch.
Finally, because it is the most unfancied and least valuable of all bodystyles, I have no problems in driving my car as if it were a daily driver (salted roads excluded).
Chris '67 S1 2+2
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#7 Re: Interesting Discussion
S1 FHC all day long for me , but I'm a little biassed , am I the only person who thinks a low drag , dare I say ,is a little ugly ????
Its a way of life not a hobby
Darren . 64 4.2 modded 69 4.2
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Not at all, I agree, fhc for me.
Randall Botha
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I'm a FHC man also for its additional storage space and ability to carry the mutt if so needed, though not now as she shuffled off this mortal coil over a year ago.
For that open car feeling I got a £5k retractable hard top model of the Mazda MX-5. Great fun to drive and I'm not even bothered about salted roads.
For that open car feeling I got a £5k retractable hard top model of the Mazda MX-5. Great fun to drive and I'm not even bothered about salted roads.
Jerome Lunt
1970 S2 FHC - Dark Blue, Red Interior, MX5 Seats
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1970 S2 FHC - Dark Blue, Red Interior, MX5 Seats
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#10 Re: Interesting Discussion
Darren! Wash your mouth out! How dare you disparage the mighty low drag?dal2.0litrefrogeye wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:53 pmS1 FHC all day long for me , but I'm a little biassed , am I the only person who thinks a low drag , dare I say ,is a little ugly ????
Yeah, I agree. The purity of the Series 1 Coupe is only usually spoiled by those trying to improve on it. Frankly, I don't care whether it's 3.8 or 4.2 although the extra badges on the rear door of the 4.2 do clutter it up. The alloy dash is pretty special too. Minor points though.
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Stuart
If you can't make it work, make it complicated!
'62 FHC - Nearing completion
'69 Daimler 420 Sovereign
'78 Land Rover Series 3 109
If you can't make it work, make it complicated!
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I looked at my car on Sunday as it was out in the sunshine for the first time in months, now with its new working clutch pedal return spring (replacing that was a long delayed faff). It really needs wider tyres on wheels that are a little further out.
It ain’t gonna get them. These wheels are only 20 years old, and still buff up almost as good as new. And I’ve just bought a new set of Vreds.
It ain’t gonna get them. These wheels are only 20 years old, and still buff up almost as good as new. And I’ve just bought a new set of Vreds.
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#12 Re: Interesting Discussion
3.8 FHC (and I have had two of them) for looks, the seats (yes really) and the 3.8 engine which I prefer. Not so keen on the moss box although I have always been proficient at its manipulation - I favour the all synchro Jag box personally , but that would be a modification to a 3.8.
Barrie
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1968 E-type roadster, 1964 E-type fixed head 1995 Ferrari 355 1980 Ferrari 308 1987 V8 90 Landrover 1988 Bedford rascal van 1943 Ford GPW
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#13 Re: Interesting Discussion
Everyone's view will favour their own choice. For myself, the 3.8 wins over the 4.2 by virtue of its overall appearance (including the seats with the top down). On the latter point, I prefer the appearance of the OTS seats to the FHC versions. I was nervous about their comfort level (having a bad back) but I've actually found them to be really supportive which means I can drive a few hours without discomfort (during or after) the journey.
Phil
1964 S1 3.8 OTS
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Being totally biased i have to agree that the 3.8 fhc is a top choice, but the series3 fhc is also growing on me as a bit of a bargain (relatively speaking!). Nearly persuaded a friend to buy one recently, but not quite
Darryl
1964 S1 FHC 3.8 opalescent maroon
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