67 fhc generator or alternator??

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#1 67 fhc generator or alternator??

Post by autoalain » Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:19 pm

Folks, real basket case, last owner said it had a generator and not an alternator, others have
told me it should be alternator, but I found a black.blue wire in harness and after going to
diagram of harness to the right side of display it does show a box with generator with black/blue and black/brown. I did purchase an alternator but wires going to alternator do not look correct.
so IF it should be a generator is the regulator still the same that is mounted on the lower driver side
under the bonnet. Thanks Mike.

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#2 Re: 67 fhc generator or alternator??

Post by Series1 Stu » Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:41 pm

Hi

I'm pretty sure that they changed from positive to negative earth with the introduction of the 4.2 engine and that this was accompanied by a change from generator to alternator.

The control box on the left hand side of the bulkhead was replaced by a regulator, which was separate to the alternator.

Looking at the wiring diagrams there doesn't appear to be any wires with blue traces around the alternator and regulator connections.

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#3 Re: 67 fhc generator or alternator??

Post by caveman » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:17 pm

Commonly used colour codes for British car wiring:
https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/ ... rder_2.pdf
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#4 Re: 67 fhc generator or alternator??

Post by Allrand » Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:53 am

Are you sure it's a 67 & original 4.2, check the VIN & engine no's.
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#5 Re: 67 fhc generator or alternator??

Post by christopher storey » Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:07 am

All 4.2 litre cars had alternators, so any car from about October 1964 onwards should have an alternator. The likelihood is that your basket case is in fact a 3.8 car from mid 1964 or earlier

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#6 Re: 67 fhc generator or alternator??

Post by RobinAnthony » Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:00 pm

Hi. If your car originally came with a generator, the regulator that is mounted on the lower driver side under the bonnet would have been designed to work with a generator, not an alternator. If you have since installed an alternator, you will need to change the regulator to one that is designed to work with an alternator.

In terms of wiring, the wiring for a generator and an alternator are different, so it's possible that the wiring going to your alternator is not correct for your car's original configuration with a generator. You will need to refer to a wiring diagram specific to your car's make, model, and year to determine the correct wiring for your alternator or generator.

It's also worth noting that converting from a generator to an alternator can involve more than just swapping out the parts. There may be additional modifications required to the wiring or other components of the car to ensure that everything works properly with the new alternator. If you're unsure about how to proceed, it may be best to consult with a mechanic or specialist who has experience with your particular make and model of car.

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#7 Re: 67 fhc generator or alternator??

Post by Heuer » Fri Mar 03, 2023 3:20 pm

Changing polarity on a generator car is easy:
Positive to negative earth conversion guide: https://www.jcna.com/positive-negative- ... nversion-0

On a standard car no need to change anything other than swap a few wires around and flash the generator.
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