Phil Hallewell Wire Wheels

neil4444 · Post by **neil4444** » Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:36 pm

Here are the Phil Hallewell Centrelaced wheels, 5 1/2", shod with Dunlop SP Sports 185VR15

Neil

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:19 pm

Um! They look more like 61/2 inch wheels to me. Did you order them like that with more offset? If not, I may think twice about going for these wheels. Just look a bit too rude! All a matter of personal choice. Build quality and finish look excellent from the photos. I am sure you are delighted!

Post by **Heuer** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:52 pm

Barry

They are centre laced, standard Jaguar was 36 short spokes from centre of rim to the inner hub and 36 long spokes from outer edge of rim to outer hub. Gives added lateral strength.

Half the spokes attach at the very edge of the wheel unlike the centre laced which attach to the middle only. Gives a totally different look - check out the previous page of this thread for pictures of all three styles of wheel available.

neil4444 · Post by **neil4444** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:11 pm

Barry wrote:Um! They look more like 61/2 inch wheels to me. Did you order them like that with more offset? If not, I may think twice about going for these wheels. Just look a bit too rude! All a matter of personal choice. Build quality and finish look excellent from the photos. I am sure you are delighted!

Barry, As stated they're 5 1/2". If they were 6 1/2" I'd have said so, furthermore it would be quite a stretch to get the 'standard' Dunlop SP Sports 185VR15 to fit on wheels that size. I chose them as I think they look great on John's 62 OTS (see earlier photos in thread) and furthermore the offset of the centrelaced wheel allows the wheelarches to look a little fuller whilst still retaining the original rubber (and thus original handling of the car). You're right about 3 things though - Build quality, finish & the fact I'm delighted with them ! :D

Neil

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:45 pm

Thanks David. I should be more observant!

Post by **Heuer** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:07 pm

Barry

There are always Borrani's!

Go on, you know it makes sense! Incidentally how are you getting on with your car now it is back on the road?

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:52 am

Yes I know......Borrani's! At Goodwood at the weekend I was talking to the guys about a set of Torrino wheels. Any knowledge. Look like a Borrani but a bit cheaper! My car cam back from NFCC last Wednesday. Your exhaust is fantastic! Love it; it may be a little too noisy on a motorway, but when the 5 speed box goes in, and lowers the revs, it should be fine. The brakes are fantastic with E-type FABS 4 pots and grooved discs, and his dampers are so much better than the Spax I drove. The great advantage with his dampers are that they are easier to calibrate. I am experimenting at present on settings, but have them on 6 clicks (out of 13). Not impressed that NFCC had them at 6 on one side and 0 on the other side when the car was delivered! Also, whilst Vintage tyres in Beaulieu balanced the wheels, it feels exactly the same as it did before it went to NFCC. Namely, go up to a speed range and the wheels are definitely out, then try it again a few miles up the road, and they are fine. Any ideas? One theory is that the wheels I have on the car are the original wheels but re spoked by the previous owner (from new). It could be that the wheels distort enough in certain circumstances to throw the balance out. Only way to find out is a new set of wheels but they will have to wait.......! As the suspension has been completely re built, new bushes etc, and the rack does not show signs of excessive wear I can t think of anything else. But that exhaust......oh, and I do have the new Series 2 rear pipes that Jimmy made a couple of weeks ago. The extra torque is really noticeable throughout the rev range. I am sticking to the cast manifolds as well.

Post by **Heuer** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:39 am

Had a similar problem on my OTS and we solved it by checking the balance of the hubs and disc rotors but a bit of a pain to do. Unfortunately you can't do the balance on the car as wire wheels screw up the balance machine. Other thing to look for is the steering ball joints having wear as different road camber can alter the setup.

We did thousands of miles with that exhaust system and never had a concern over noise when cruising. You need to keep the engine below the magic 2,750rpm and the system will be very quiet. With my 5 speed and 2.88 diff 2,750 rpm equates to 90mph.

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:32 am

Thanks David, I will look into that. As I have new hubs and rotors, I will look at the steering ball joints first. The behaviour is the same as it was before the mods, so it has to be something that is still on the car.

Post by **Heuer** » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:13 pm

Original Factory Competition 5.5" wire wheels in dark metallic grey:

vipergts · Post by **vipergts** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:49 am

My favourite wheel on an Etype by far

Post by **Heuer** » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:22 pm

Competition triple lacing Lee? Looks superb! Rim width and tyres?

vipergts · Post by **vipergts** » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:18 am

Heuer wrote:Competition triple lacing Lee? Looks superb! Rim width and tyres?

Certainly 6" rim tyres are the Avon CR6ZZ and I can't remember width.....Think 205/70

Anyway I swapped these onto my 62 because the tyres are so sticky that chips were appearing

dougal · Post by **dougal** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:20 am

Can i just voice my concern about wire wheels without tubes. Here is a short film we made of one of the failed tubeless wire wheels we have come accross

i agree the Avon CR6ZZ is a great track tyre, I also think they loook good, but they don't look period (partly because the certainly are not) and i would suggest for road use the ride will be a bit harsh. Michelin XWX http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page/20 ... n-xwx.html or Pirelli Cinturato http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page/20 ... urato.html would be more suited to road use and give more miles per ?/$

Personally i am more a fan of fitting the tyre size that Jaguar knew was best for the car 185VR15. Lets not for one minute consider that they didn''t do loads of testing and they were innovative with tyres and their connection with Dunlop. they were fitting 70 profile 205mm tyres to their XJ6 for years before they fitted it to the E-type. A non power steering car will be much nicer to drive on a 185VR15. (What you do on the race track, and with heavily modified steering and suspension is different). It's not about power; it's about handling.

As far as what rim can you fit a 185 section tyre to; the Standard fitment is 4.5" - 6" However what you can get away with is different. A 185 section tyre is after all 7.3" wide when fitted to it's optimum size rim. for instance Ferrari regularly built cars witting rims that were an inch wider than the recommended rim width. However for road use sticking with the recomended rim width will mean you have enought tyre overhanging your rim to protect your wheels from curbing while giving your tyre plenty of structure. (again what you do for track use is another thing altogether. generally fit really wide rims because there are no curbs to hit)

I would suggest that if you want aluminium wheels then stick with a proper Borrani https://www.borrani.com/jaguar-wheels/e-type.html . they are the best.

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