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#1 S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:16 pm
by phoenix
Just fitting gearbox to engine . We tried the clutch by levering the release arm and the box seems to be locked. This gearbox was supposed to be OK is it possible whilst standing round the selectors at the tail could have moved . I.e .Two gears at once.
#2 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 5:24 pm
by christopher storey
Highly possible. Have you put the gearlever back on yet? If so, did you try it in its various positions? in any event, take the box back off the engine , take the lever off , and get a largish screwdriver to slide the selector rods into the neutral position and see whether the first motion shaft can be moved then. If so, put the lever back on and repeat the test in each gear position
#3 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:42 pm
by phoenix
Thanks . What should they look like in neutral. Which is the first motion shaft ?. We have tried putting the gear lever in and it seems like it is in neutral but will not select any gear .
#4 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 6:45 pm
by mgcjag
Did you take the gearbox cover off prior to your box locking up......if you dont fit the top cover correctly the box can easily lock up.....Steve
#5 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2022 7:05 pm
by phoenix
No we haven't touched any of the box .
#6 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:30 am
by christopher storey
The first motion shaft is the input shaft in the bellhousing . There are 3 selector rods which each have a slot at the rear end.That for 3rd/top gear is on the left, that for 1st/2nd is in the middle, and that for reverse is on the right ( all looking forwards ) . Lever the shafts gently so that all the slots are in line, and neither frowards nor backwards of the central position , and that should be your neutral position when both input and output shafts should be able to rotate independently of each other. If that is achieved, put the lever on and check that all works normally in the usual gear positions
#7 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:06 pm
by angelw
Bryan Wrote:
What should they look like in neutral. Which is the first motion shaft ?. We have tried putting the gear lever in and it seems like it is in neutral but will not select any gear .
The following pictures are the visual of Christopher's written description for the Neutral position of the Gear Selectors.
Bottom View
Top Cover
Regards,
Bill
#8 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:39 pm
by phoenix
Thanks very much for your help . This rebuild has been I nightmare . After fitting engine and box then firing up we could not get it to idle below 1200 . Found out low compression on 3 cylinders. The owner had the engine professionaly rebuilt 10 years ago but not turned over during intervening period. Result 2mm rust rings . When you thing your on the home run it's very demoralising .
#9 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:38 pm
by DWW
Wow, that's a bummer

#10 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:16 pm
by phoenix
All back together . Box on engine ready for fitting . Many thanks for your knowledge .
I am a classic Mini and Fiat 500 owner this is a great departure for me.
#11 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:03 pm
by christopher storey
Glad you got a good result, and particular thanks to Bill for the detailed and annotated photographs .
#12 Re: S1 4.4 gear selection
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:28 pm
by phoenix
Yes they were very good photos really helpful. Many thanks Bill .