Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

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#1 Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Dad » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:02 pm

Could someone please be kind and send me a close-up snap of the electrical connector for the washer bottle pictured? Can’t find anyone that doesn’t sell them as part of the whole unit, which is unnecessary. I’m hoping to find something suitable in an electronics store or online.

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#2 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by dlgis » Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:21 am

I assume you mean the brushes, these being the part that usually fails? I tried to find these last year and gave up, and bought the whole part minus the bottle.


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#3 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Dad » Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:24 pm

Not really, Darryl. I mean the entire connector, that attaches to the outside of the bottle. The plastic/rubber cover perished on mine and now I have exposed brushes that I've wrapped in insulating tape. Perfectly functional but a bit ugly and not going to help me win any shows.
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#4 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by DWW » Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:50 pm

Hi, why don't you show a photo of your actual item so we are all clear on what you are after.
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#5 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by caveman » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:21 pm

Not mine but very similar.
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#6 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by caveman » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:27 pm

Here’s one from an earlier car, similar wiring;
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#7 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by DWW » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:36 pm

Are you talking about the translosent insulated spade females?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/spade-co ... 74164?gb=b

Not sure about the size of the above.
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#8 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Bob. » Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:30 am

This appears to be an original connector on a LHD 12 Oct 1965 built car.

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It looks to be the same on this LHD 27 Apr 1966 built car.

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Any help?
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#9 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Dad » Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:16 pm

Thanks so much, Bob! Thats it!
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#10 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by caveman » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:17 am

If you manage to locate one, please let me know as I’ve looked for some time but cannot find any.
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#11 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Monkeyfinger » Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:28 am

Steve, you reminded me that I was working on 3D printing this part a little while ago - I like to copy appropriate plastic components on my car, when I get the opportunity. I can finish working on this, as soon as I get some Lucar connectors with the locking tabs, which are needed to fit inside the plug. I don't believe anything like this is still available (at least I never found one when I was searching). Image shows original on the left, 3D printed version on the right. On my car it's mounted on a fairly short flying lead that has 2 male spade connectors which join the harness on the bulkhead.
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#12 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by caveman » Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:46 pm

Wow, great job Richard :salute:
If you start producing them, I’ll buy one.
These are probably what you need:
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#13 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Monkeyfinger » Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:15 pm

Those are the ones Steve. I should get some next week, and I'll need to tweak the design to suit the ones I get. I'll let you know once it's ready.
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#14 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by caveman » Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:55 pm

Perfect, thanks Richard. Much appreciated.
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#15 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Dad » Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:16 pm

I'd very much also like to buy one or two of these, please! Forums are awesome! Many thanks, Rich!
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Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:28 am
Steve, you reminded me that I was working on 3D printing this part a little while ago - I like to copy appropriate plastic components on my car, when I get the opportunity. I can finish working on this, as soon as I get some Lucar connectors with the locking tabs, which are needed to fit inside the plug. I don't believe anything like this is still available (at least I never found one when I was searching). Image shows original on the left, 3D printed version on the right. On my car it's mounted on a fairly short flying lead that has 2 male spade connectors which join the harness on the bulkhead.
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#16 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Monkeyfinger » Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:38 am

I've now got some brass female terminals- I'll finalise the plug design to suit these and I can then message anyone interested in a plug.

I note that the original 6.3mm terminals are copper on my car, but these seem very hard to find these days, unless someone knows a source?
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#17 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by caveman » Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:28 am

Richard,
I found this place:
https://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457 ... %20Pack%22

My car cable already has the correct connectors in place so should make the fitting of the plug straight forward.
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#18 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Series1 Stu » Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:56 am

Monkeyfinger wrote:
Thu Sep 07, 2023 7:38 am
I note that the original 6.3mm terminals are copper on my car, but these seem very hard to find these days, unless someone knows a source?
They're unlikely to be cooper because copper has very low resilience and won't hold it's shape for any length of time. More likely to be phosphor bronze or maybe even beryllium copper. I doubt either would be available new these days due to cost constraints.

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#19 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Series1 Stu » Thu Sep 07, 2023 11:02 am

Monkeyfinger wrote:
Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:28 am
On my car it's mounted on a fairly short flying lead that has 2 male spade connectors which join the harness on the bulkhead.
That's sounds like a dumb way of doing things. 4 extra connectors and 6 extra points of failure. Why not just build the connector into the loom? :shrug:
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#20 Re: Lucas washer bottle connector picture please

Post by Monkeyfinger » Thu Sep 07, 2023 1:58 pm

Ok, so responding to a couple of points - the connector on my car has been there from new, and the Lucar terminals certainly 'appear' to be copper rather than brass. However, I have no way to know for sure. Anyway, I just mention it for interest, and it's not really important. Image shows original broken connector on my car vs new shiny brass version.
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With regard to the fact that I had a short lead from 2 terminals on the loom - I have a new loom now, but it was just the same on the old one. Again, no idea how it 'should' be, but it works just fine.

I do know that original spec for my series 2 was with the black cover over the 2 terminals, and whilst I still have my original, I can also re-make these, since they seem impossible to find. I'm sure they are actually intended for another application, but they work ok, and nice to have if the original look is of concern.
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