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#1 Headlamp surrounds screw thread size?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 12:31 pm
by Stevemorris
Hi all
Another thread size query if I can?
Someone has fitted self tapping screws in the headlamp surround/covers on my car. Looking at the captive nuts I think I can save them by running the correct tap through. Does anyone know what the correct thread is please? I have a new set of correct screws and they are measuring 3/16 with a tpi of 32. I’m thinking this is UNF???
Thanks, Steve.
#2 Re: Headlamp surrounds screw thread size?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2026 1:36 pm
by Heuer
Read this first:
viewtopic.php?p=35881#p35881
You can then input the part number into this decoder:
https://www.decode.fyi/ and you will get the technical spec of the part.
This document is also a good resource: Jaguar Nuts, Bolts and Fasteners specs:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vbkgbwl4b3tyc ... s.pdf?dl=0
#3 Re: Headlamp surrounds screw thread size?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 7:54 am
by chrisfell
Unfortunately for those of us who do not use a VPN to hide behind or get round controls, David’s link goes nowhere interesting - just a thread of purple screens.
The headlamp cover surround screws are 5/32 32. Replacements in stainless steel are available and not expensive. I use a tap to restore the threads in the captive nuts and a die to do the same for my screws.
#4 Re: Headlamp surrounds screw thread size?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 8:42 am
by 44DHR
Steve,
I think this is covered at post #4 in the attached link regarding the thread size, even though that states 8/32 inch with an UNC thread, which seems too big and too coarse to me, unless this is the replacement size to tap out stripped original threads. There still remains some confusion as to the original exact dimensions and thread type, with you saying 3/16 inch and Chris saying 5/32 inch, you both agree on 32 TPI.
Regardless of the original screws, my post #6 gives an alternative solution to the screws and nuts.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21858&p=176455&hilit=Screw#p176455
Regards,
Dave
#5 Re: Headlamp surrounds screw thread size?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 10:03 am
by mgcjag
Think you will find they are 8-32....Steve
#6 Re: Headlamp surrounds screw thread size?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:24 am
by Heuer
chrisfell wrote: ↑Tue Jun 23, 2026 7:54 am
Unfortunately for those of us who do not use a VPN to hide behind or get round controls, David’s link goes nowhere interesting - just a thread of purple screens.
"Nowhere interesting" - really?

All the information is in the text not in the purple picture eater:
The chrome finisher assemblies around the headlamp apertures (#BD16789 and #BD16790) are retained by a total of 12 chrome head slotted screws. On the early cars they were #BD19013/2 "Screw, Self-Tapping"' which went into #BD8633/2 "Spire-Nut". Jaguar Spare Parts Bulletin P.115 states the change took place at cars 881261/850843/890251/861557 and the newer screws are Phillips head.
#7 Re: Headlamp surrounds screw thread size?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 11:43 am
by 44DHR
Steve is correct at post #5 with the machine screw defined as 8-32.
There is confusion over using the thread diameter as a measurement rather than using the screw gauge, which itself defines the thread diameter.
The “8” is the screw gauge size and the “32” is the number of threads per inch. Defined as 8-32 as a fastener with an imperial thread. Screw gauge “8” is approximately 4.16 mm diameter.
The measurement of 8/32 inch is 1/4 of an inch which is much larger at 6.35 mm.
I won’t post a photo as you may not see it.
Cheers,
Dave
#8 Re: Headlamp surrounds screw thread size?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2026 3:14 pm
by Allrand
881261/850843/890251/861557 Something amiss there. Maybe the change was from slotted to phillps. My car is 861460 and has slotted machine screws, definitely not self tapping.