4.2 E- type starter motor problems?

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#1 4.2 E- type starter motor problems?

Post by jamie101 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:05 pm

hi there everyone
having a little trubble with my starter motor at the moment on my 4.2 FHC S1.5,
when trying to start the car its giving a whirring noise the starter motor is just spinning but not throwing in to engage the flywheel,
I took the starter motor off (what a swine to get to!) and bench tested it with no problems at all, the starter was spinning exelent and throwing in EVERY single time I tried it, no problems!
so I re-fitted it to the car only to get the same result - spinning but not throwing in!
after spinning and spinning sometimes the engine will turn but only for a cupple of seconds then whirring again,
im thinking could it be a relay of some sort that's on its way out?????
any sugestions, help, wireing diagrams will be very appreciated!
(sorry about all the spelling mistakes, I diddent listen much in English lessons at school, was more into playing netball with the girls! lol!)

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Post by Alty Ian » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:20 pm

If your ring gear is ok its probably the solenoid which engages the gear onto the flywheel via a plunger and lever arm in the end housing. When you bench tested it I assume you put 12v onto the solenoid as well ?
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Post by jamie101 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:55 pm

thank you for your reply,
yes I put 12v onto the solenoid to test it and it threw out everytime without fail and my ring gear is fine in very good condition,
this is what's confuseing me, everything (in theory) seams to be fine?!

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Post by mgcjag » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:31 pm

Hi Jamie.....have a look in the knowledge base at the tech section electrical and details how to test starter motor........if its spinning but not turning over engine then some drive damage...Steve
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Post by johnney » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:35 am

Check the pinion clutch to see if its slipping when the pinion engages with the flywheel.
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Post by christopher storey » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:58 am

IIRC There should be an alloy distance piece , about 5mm thick , which goes between motor and bellhousing. If you have forgotten to put this back, the pinion will not engage with the ring gear

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Post by Durango2k » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:13 am

... And this is kept in place via two thin Iron tubes. About 10 mm outer Dia.

I have lost One of them, but the second is there, so I made a new One cutting a piece of an alloy tube of and made-to-fit.

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Post by jamie101 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:22 pm

thank you everyone for all your replys,
I will look deeper into it this weekend and let you all know how I get on,
JOHNNEY - good point ill check this first,
thank you everyone for your support!

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Post by Nick » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:18 pm

Just a thought - check the condition of the earth strap. I have seen similar problems because the earth strap to the engine is corroded or otherwise & makes a poor electrical connection with the engine. The current is enough to spin the pinion but not enough to turn the engine.

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