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#1 Engine Rebuild recomendations for series 1 4.2

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:57 am
by TonyChile
Dear All,

just wanted to check in on Engine rebuild company recommendations? I am looking for a turn key re-build for my series 1 4.2 engine. Just looking for a straight road going rebuild.

I am based in North Surrey but am happy to transport a reasonable distance.

I was considering VSE as they seem to offer a good service and a reasonable price point. I have phoned a few local specialists but they wanted ?12k plus which is out of my price range.

Any thoughts??

#2

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:07 am
by Heuer
There was a gentleman at Stoneleigh who was doing some superb engine work but I can't find his business card. No doubt he will be there next Sunday so I will get his details.

#3

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:54 am
by mgcjag
Hi Tony...have a look at this recent thread...could be of interest...Steve
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#4 Thanks

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:14 am
by TonyChile
Has any one got any recent feedback on VSE? They have had a pretty good reputation.

CMES is another option.

Or has anyone tried Classic Car Engines? See below.

http://www.classiccarengines.co.uk/

Thanks

Tony

#5 Any info on these guys

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:46 am
by TonyChile
Hi there,

has anyone used these guys?

http://www.candfkmotors.co.uk/page/classic-car-engines

The price is very competitive.

#6 Chase in Stoke on Trent

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:31 pm
by TonyChile
Also found these..

http://chaseengineservices.co.uk/servic ... e-rebuilds

Anyone used these guys.. Sounded knowledgeable on the phone and also do historic Race Engines..

#7

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:54 pm
by 1954Etype
We have just had 2 engines built by CME. Brian, on the forum might want to comment as he has just completed 1k plus in one go down to Angouleme.

#8

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:48 pm
by Heuer
CME was the one I was thinking about.

#9 CMES

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:27 pm
by TonyChile
Gents,

just to be clear are you talking about CMES?

http://cmesuk.com/services/engine-renovation-exchange/

Thanks

Tony

#10

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:28 pm
by Heuer
Yes - check them out! They will be at Stoneleigh on Sunday

#11

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:25 pm
by BRM
As Angus said, he had my engine rebuilt by CMES recently.

It has done about 1700 miles now including 1000 down to Angouleme and back two weekends ago, so is pretty well run-in now. It sounds sweet and runs beautifully and I'm well pleased with it.

Brian

#12 Thankis for the Feedback

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:29 am
by TonyChile
Brian,

thanks for the feedback. Good to get a positive recommendation.

#13

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:56 am
by Simonpfhc
Hi Tony,

I'm about a mile or so away from you and have my freshly rebuilt engine sitting in my garage if you want to come over for a look and chat.

Cheers.

#14 A good call with CMES

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:46 am
by TonyChile
Dear All,

I had a good conversation with CMES. They are offering a bunch of options. I just want a standard performance engine but was wondering which options you would recommend Optional extras:

Full balance
Clutch Kit

Porting cylinder head
Large valve conversion
Race valves
Series three camshaft upgrade
Piper BP270 billet camshaft upgrade
Piper BP285 billet camshaft upgrade
Piper heavy duty valve spring set
H/D pre-stretched timing chain upgrade
Machine off Ring gear
Fit ring gear
Weld up waterways and re-machine
Head manifold face resurfacing
Late clutch conversion (Bell housing may require some modification)
Lighten flywheel
Reface flywheel
Custom lightweight steel flywheel
Pro race front pulley
STD reconditioned front pulley damper
Rubber rocker cover gaskets
Rear oil seal conversion (non split oil seal, includes custom flywheel)
A.R.P. Main bearing stud kit
A.R.P. Big end bolt kit
A.R.P. Fly wheel bolt kit
Line hone block
Rocker cover breather modification
Bronze valve guide upgrade
Reface rocker cover faces and line bore camshaft housings

I am tempted to go for the balance, clutch and Rear Oil seal conversion. Any other I should be going for? Looking to make the right improvements with out going to higher performance..

Thanks Again

#15

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 11:36 am
by 1954Etype
I wouldn't go for tbe rear seal upgrade.

I would go for replacement ring gear if yours is worn.
Front pully if yours is damaged
Weld up waterways and machine if required.
Reface flywheel if required.

#16

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:33 pm
by Quattrofrank
Is there a reason why you dont recomend getting the rear seal upgrade? There seems to be alot of problems regarding rear seal and its nothing worse than a car leaking oil, makes a mess everywhere.

#17

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:50 pm
by Heuer
Balancing: The XK engine is pretty smooth running anyway and most E-Type driving is done between 2,000 and 4,000 rpm so balancing is a bit of a waste of money unless you plan to regularly get up to 6,000 rpm+.

Seal: If the rope seal is done properly it should outlast your ownership and the new seals make irreversible changes to the crank. I would also avoid anything 'custom' to future proof the engine. If CMES change the design of their custom flywheel or update it you could have problems if you need a replacement. Also there was a problem with 'upgraded' flywheels when used with 5 speed boxes.

#18

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:04 pm
by Stuart Exelby
Hi - I used CMES - I did take the balance - she is extremely smooth - but as said previously, they are pretty smooth anyway so it may have been a waste.... - along with a clutch kit (but not the expensive one which they were pushing hard) but did not take the upgraded oil seal. When I had the 500 mile change there was absolutely no oil from anywhere on the outside of the engine - so for me, I would not bother with the change to the oil seal either.

Their costs are reasonable, especially when compared with others, they kept to time (within a couple of days anyway). I would use them again if I had a need....

#19 Great Advice

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:19 pm
by TonyChile
Gents thanks again for the advice. Very helpful..

#20

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:49 pm
by 1954Etype
They all beat me to it Tony!