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#1 HT Leads
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:46 am
by trev_car
HI, I'm look for a diagram of the HT lead layout. Were they are on the distributor( the position of number one lead and were they go to the engine block.
Trev
#2 HT Leads
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:53 am
by trev_car
Forgot to say this is for a 4.2 E type series 2
#3
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:11 am
by mgcjag
Hi Trev....that very much depends on tbe position of your distributor but the fireing order is 1,5,3,6,2,4 so No1 piston nearest to windscreen get it to top of its compression stroke and look at where the position the rotor arm is pointing at, thats 1......then continue Anti clockwise around dizzy 5,3,6,2,4
#4
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:26 pm
by PeterCrespin
ANTICLOCKWISE
#5
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:27 pm
by PeterCrespin
AND 153624 not 153642....!
#6
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:38 pm
by iani
PeterCrespin wrote:AND 153624 not 153642....!
Too Young, Too Old & Just Right....allegedly
#7
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:46 pm
by mgcjag
Must be the first signs of dementia.....just goes to show you should get the manual out and look it up yourself and dont believe everything thats written on a forum......just going for a lay down in a dark room

have edited my mistakes and now correct
#8 HT Leads
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:06 pm
by trev_car
Thank you all for your help!
You save me getting old trying to work it out.
Regards Trev
#9
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:59 pm
by 1954Etype
Trev, you should seriously consider buying a manual. This is all basic stuff.
#10 Re: Ignition timing setup
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:03 am
by skippy
1954Etype wrote:Trev, you should seriously consider buying a manual. This is all basic stuff.
I have the Jaguar Service manual (Series 1 E type) and could not find reference to the firing order in the whole manual?
Where or what page is it please?
Also Is there on this very informative forum a picture to show ignition setup, like 6 pots in a row numbered 1 - 6 (left to right) and the distributor shown in correct orientation with terminals numbered in firing order ??
For me, This would tell me instantly how it should be. (I could draw this and upload it for the forum once its confirmed correct) or I would be surprised if it does'nt exist somewhere ??
I know its basic stuff, but only ever driven (and worked on!) a v12 never a 6.
Thanks for any information provided.
Regards
Keith

#11 Re: HT Leads
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:33 am
by mark10337
As Steve said, if you turn the crank by hand so that No. 1 Cylinder is at the top of it's compression ratio, the rotor arm on the dizzy will point to No. 1. Then you number them in an anti clockwise manner, 153624. This way you can be certain that it is correct for your engine.
I remember there is a diagram in the Haynes manual showing what you ask, but don't have mine with me at the moment.
#12 Re: HT Leads
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:08 am
by mgcjag
Hi Keith..look at page B.8 you cannot put numbers on your diagram of the dizzy....you have to look at where the rotor is pointing......this then fires the cylinder thats on its compression stroke
#13 Re: HT Leads
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:05 pm
by paulsco
Prepared to be shot down here, but at (10 degrees before) TDC on the firing stroke, doesn't the rotor arm point to number 6 front cylinder not number 1 at the back?
Paul
#14 Re: HT Leads
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:20 pm
by chrisfell
paulsco wrote:Prepared to be shot down here, but at (10 degrees before) TDC on the firing stroke, doesn't the rotor arm point to number 6 front cylinder not number 1 at the back?
Paul
Yes and no. It depends which of these two is on its compression stroke. One will be 360 degrees of crank rotation from the other. Or 180 degrees of dizzie rotation.
#15 Re: HT Leads
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:20 pm
by paulsco
Yes agreed, but the service manual instructions for setting the ignition timing states that the engine should be set to (10) before tdc on the firing stroke of the front cylinder (6), ie the rotor arm is pointing to 6 and 6 is firing not 1
Paul
#16 Re: HT Leads
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 2:30 pm
by mgcjag
Hi Paul...yes you are correct.....the original poster asked where no1 lead went on the distributor so the answer was with no cylinder on the comp stroke.it goes to where the rotor is pointing.........i think the confusion comes from some wanting a defined position on the distributor eg 2 o/clock.....but this can be a bit vague.....also that the crank goes around twice....so if you say set to 10deg befor tdc on one revolution it will be 1 on its comp stroke and the next revolution it will be 6
#17 Re: HT Leads
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:39 am
by skippy
mgcjag wrote:Hi Keith..look at page B.8 you cannot put numbers on your diagram of the dizzy....you have to look at where the rotor is pointing......this then fires the cylinder thats on its compression stroke
Thanks Steve, right there at the bottom of the page! putting on 2 pairs of glasses did the job!
Regards
Keith
#18 Re: HT Leads
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:45 am
by skippy
paulsco wrote:Yes agreed, but the service manual instructions for setting the ignition timing states that the engine should be set to (10) before tdc on the firing stroke of the front cylinder (6), ie the rotor arm is pointing to 6 and 6 is firing not 1
Paul
Thanks Guys, and with Pauls' comment here, I have numbered the dizzy and believe I have it correct to setup and drop in your dizzy in the right orientation.. Please confirm it is correct (or not!).

#19 Re: HT Leads
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:56 am
by mgcjag
Hi Skippy....yes that look correct so long as your no 6 piston is up on its compression stroke
#20 Re: HT Leads
Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:26 am
by mark10337
Yes, that is correct. Here is the diagram from the Haynes manual.
