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#1 TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:20 am
by ysmalkie
I have been researching the TRIPLEX logos on Jaguars for quite some time.

Here goes a fairly complete sheet with logos for different glass of the e-type.

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As you can see, I am missing some of the logos, for example I do not have any ’64 glass logos for rear or side screens.

The side glass logos have varies quite a bit:
- The font evolved, especially on the TRIPLEX
- The AS2 seemed to be placed on the bottom for ’63 glass, but only for the door windows
- The door windows were printed in reverse (but always identical left & right)
- From ’65 (’64?) onward additional markings were introduced
- The size of the logos have varied
- The mysterious dot in the middle of XXX popped up and went away – I have no idea what it meant.
- The heart was of 2 or 3 designs varying by the shape of the S and the top.
- The headlamp glass had extra dots between TRIPLEX and TOUGHENED.
- The S (sheet) glass was mostly used for door windows while P (Plate) glass was mostly used for other side glass.
- ’67 heated boot lid glass was made in AS1 quality!..

Other symbols explained:
L – Laminated
T – Toughened, heat treated
P – Plate Glass
S – Sheet Glass
T – Toughened Glass
V – for vehicle use??
F – Float Glass, used since ’63 when float glass begun to be available
WF – Front windscreen quality – used since 65
AS1 or AS2, where AS stands for American Standard. AS1 means glass is with at least 70% transmission and can be used anywhere on a vehicle (by default used on the windshield), AS2 is used for side glass.
M3 or M6 – Manufacturer codes, describing different models of glass – used since ‘65
French Homologation Designation, used since ’54. It consists of “AGRÉÉ” and the standard designation: TP.GS.6
- AGRÉÉ meaning certified, authorized.
TP.GS. meaning “Transport Publique, Gestion de Securite” – the homologation body) and 6 is the homologation number. In ’66 the French homologation designation changed from the two line format to single line and now read: AG TPGS6.
D - German approval, introduced in ’67. It was a sine wave followed by letter D and a number. D90 was used on ‘60s Triplex glass.

The windscreen glass also varied, however to a lesser extent. There were fewer versions of it.

I need photos of the logos that are missing please - your help will be most appreciated.

Also, if your glass logo is different than specified by me for a particular year, please let me know.



Tadek

#2 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:36 am
by Philk
Hi - I can help with the 1964 S1 3.8 Door Window. Photo below.


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#3 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:21 pm
by ysmalkie
Many thanks Phil. Much appreciated.

What month is your car from?

Would you have any other side/rear '64 glass?

Regards,

Tadek

#4 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:04 pm
by Philk
ysmalkie wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:21 pm
Many thanks Phil. Much appreciated.

What month is your car from?

Would you have any other side/rear '64 glass?

Regards,

Tadek
Hi - it's a June '64 roadster so no rear glass. From the car's history file, the other side glass was replaced in May 1988 so we do not have the original logo.

#5 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:51 pm
by ysmalkie
Thanks Phil!

#6 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:31 am
by ggg1102
Hi Tadek,
you have many logos and it's important beocuse I never found a complete guide with all these image.

I send you my old logos (march 1966 - 2+2) becouse it seems different from yours. My letters are differents - I think WLP MII without anyletters below.
Do you think it's correct?

I have only this old pic becouse unfortunetely I trash the windshield and now I have to remade it.

Can you send me your image-table with high definition so I can see differents.
Thanks
Giovanni

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#7 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:57 am
by ysmalkie
Hi,

Many thanks for the logo - do you have any better picture?? I can hardly see this one..
Can you say what does it read at the bottom of the circle?

WLP would be:
W- Windshield
L - Laminated
P - Plate glass
M11 - Manufacturer codes, describing different models of glass – used since ‘65

It's interesting, as I have never seen M11 code on a Jaguar windshield.

Tadek

#8 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:56 am
by ggg1102
Hi,
I can only zoom it.

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#9 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:39 pm
by Heuer
Any help?:

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#10 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:13 pm
by ysmalkie
David, I know I can zoom in :-)

I was hoping Giovanni has a better photo version :-).

So, I can think of the following options:
PLATE
SUNDYM
LAMINATED
TOUGHENED

1st letter looks like PLATE, but it's longer - looks like 6 letters..

#11 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 3:41 pm
by ysmalkie
A guess?

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The dots over TRIPLEX ar interesting, too. There seems to be one over T and one over X in TRIPLEX.

#12 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:36 pm
by ggg1102
Hi,
I think it's not PLATE but LAMINATED because it's longer and because it's 1966. Maybe with a dot below A (but I can see it).
Dot is above T and near X (but I don't know if this dot has sense).
I have a new windshield and I'm trying to re-made the correct logo.

#13 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:57 pm
by ysmalkie
It should say LAMINATED. However, your text looks shorter.

This is how LAMINATED would look like:
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Looks right to you?


Tadek

#14 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:28 pm
by ggg1102
Yes, I think it's correct. Thanks a lot for drawing.
Giovanni

#15 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:45 am
by ysmalkie
Giovanni, what was the original market for your car? Was it Italy??

Tadek

#16 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:02 pm
by bitsobrits
Apologies for image quality-darn hard to photograph, at least with my phone.

65 FHC rear

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65FHC side (quarter)

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#17 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:01 pm
by ysmalkie
Thanks so much Steve, I did not have that one.

Do you have the original headlamp glass by any chance?

Tadek

#18 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:29 pm
by ggg1102
Hi Tadek, the first market of my car was US. It was sold by a NY dealer.

#19 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:49 pm
by bitsobrits
ysmalkie wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:01 pm
Thanks so much Steve, I did not have that one.

Do you have the original headlamp glass by any chance?

Tadek
Sorry about the odd angle-was hard to capture this one as well. That is an 'A52' at the top


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#20 Re: TRIPLEX logos research - a bit of help needed

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:14 pm
by ysmalkie
Many thanks Steve!

It's actually AS2 - American Standard 2. You will find it on your side screens of your modern car, too.

The TS is unusual. All I saw was S, never TS.

T - Toughened
S - Sheet glass

Tadek