Headlights relay
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#1 Headlights relay
Hi, I'm a new member of this forum and thank you for welcoming me. I have an e-Type 3800 Roadster from 1962. I write from Italy. I need your help because suddenly my low headlights stopped working. We have checked the headlights and both work, the 3 positions lighting switch works perfect, the cables are all connected, the fuses are all healthy, the dip/main switch works properly. I would like to know if there is some hidden relays on the first series that I can't find. From what I understood on the first series there are no relays for the headlights, but I can't find the problem. Not even the flashing lights works and the headlights warning light on the speedometer. Only the high beam activated by the Dip/Main Switch work. Thank you for any help. Manolo
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#2 Re: Headlights relay
Welcome Manolo!
There are no headlight relays on any of the S1/2 cars although adding them makes a huge improvement in headlamp performance. The problem likely lies with the multi bullet juntion box which you can only access by removing the left hand headlamp assembly. It looks like this (note this car has the relay upgrade):
It is the top black connector as dust and corrosion can easily get in. Remove the headlampp and sugar scoop and clean the bullets with switch cleaner. With a meter on each bullet in turn you can confirm there is 12 volts there as you operate each switch. Whilst yoiu are in there consider doing the relay upgrade, full instructions here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4919
There are no headlight relays on any of the S1/2 cars although adding them makes a huge improvement in headlamp performance. The problem likely lies with the multi bullet juntion box which you can only access by removing the left hand headlamp assembly. It looks like this (note this car has the relay upgrade):
It is the top black connector as dust and corrosion can easily get in. Remove the headlampp and sugar scoop and clean the bullets with switch cleaner. With a meter on each bullet in turn you can confirm there is 12 volts there as you operate each switch. Whilst yoiu are in there consider doing the relay upgrade, full instructions here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4919
David Jones
S1 OTS OSB; S1 FHC ODB
1997 Porsche 911 Guards Red
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S1 OTS OSB; S1 FHC ODB
1997 Porsche 911 Guards Red
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#3 Re: Headlights relay
I know you said your dip switch (high/low beam selector switch) on the dash works properly but i had very similar conditions and it was that dash toggle high low beam selector switch that was the problem.
It was a while ago but I lost either high or low completely.
Part of the headlamp circuit runs through the switch, it is not ancillary to the circuit.
I replaced the switch and all was good.
It was a while ago but I lost either high or low completely.
Part of the headlamp circuit runs through the switch, it is not ancillary to the circuit.
I replaced the switch and all was good.
Layne
Car #876005, 62 OTS
Car #876005, 62 OTS
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I lost low/ dip recently while driving in the dark. It was a scary thing, having no lights or blinding oncoming traffic with full beam.
The problem was a faulty fuse. It looked good, but had a dry joint which heated up and broke continuity. Cool it was fine.
The problem was a faulty fuse. It looked good, but had a dry joint which heated up and broke continuity. Cool it was fine.
Chris '67 S1 2+2
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I had a near identical situation last Autumn - no dipped beam. Mine turned out to be a loose connection on the spade terminal adjacent to the fuse. Given the symptoms described, I'm sure the issue is simply a loose (or oxidised) connection either at a terminal on in one of the bullet connectors en-route from the switch through the 8 pin connector block inside the bonnet through to the lights themselves. The fact that neither are working points to something on the supply side of the 8 pin block.chrisfell wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:12 pmI lost low/ dip recently while driving in the dark. It was a scary thing, having no lights or blinding oncoming traffic with full beam.
The problem was a faulty fuse. It looked good, but had a dry joint which heated up and broke continuity. Cool it was fine.
Phil
1964 S1 3.8 OTS
1964 S1 3.8 OTS
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#6 Re: Headlights relay
Thanks to everyone for the precious help, luckily it turned out that the problem was a wire that did not make contact in the central compartment where there are the fuses.
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#7 Re: Headlights relay
Unfortunately, the problem has come back. I can't see the instructions you sent for editing with the relay, the link leads nowhere. Can you postpone it correctly? Thank youHeuer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:19 pmWelcome Manolo!
There are no headlight relays on any of the S1/2 cars although adding them makes a huge improvement in headlamp performance. The problem likely lies with the multi bullet juntion box which you can only access by removing the left hand headlamp assembly. It looks like this (note this car has the relay upgrade):
It is the top black connector as dust and corrosion can easily get in. Remove the headlampp and sugar scoop and clean the bullets with switch cleaner. With a meter on each bullet in turn you can confirm there is 12 volts there as you operate each switch. Whilst yoiu are in there consider doing the relay upgrade, full instructions here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4919
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#8 Re: Headlights relay
Link updated: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4919
David Jones
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