The crunch of rusty metal parting ......

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#1 The crunch of rusty metal parting ......

Post by chrisfell » Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:00 pm

.....is not a welcome noise. Today it came from the driver's door window regulator. Consequence? The window glass remained in its frame and didn't drop into the door.

At least it will be raining tomorrow so I can spend some time in the garage removing the door card to inspect the regulator and glass.

I thought the regulator was getting stiff to operate......
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#2 Re: The crunch of rusty metal parting ......

Post by Robbiee » Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:58 pm

Oh hell…good luck
Which side by the way?

My RHS (drivers) winder was very worn and I managed to purchase a second hand one from the states! …being from passenger window of a LHD car it was less well used
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#3 Re: The crunch of rusty metal parting ......

Post by abowie » Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:45 pm

Moss (formerly XKs) make replacement cogs.
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#4 Re: The crunch of rusty metal parting ......

Post by chrisfell » Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:00 am

The inspection........
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The glass came out easily, but the rubber seal has seen better days. Evident on the glass is overspray from when the car was tarted up in 2002/3.


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This looks awful, but it is a mixture of rust and oil/grease. It'll clean up nicely. However.....


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... the glass channel is beyond saving. Replacements are available, as is the rubber seal.

Further inspection revealed.......


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..the door frame bracket has fractured. Quite when this happened I don't know, it may even predate my ownership of the car as I can always remember the door frame moving. This part is also available.

It looks like I'll be giving SNBG an order today. First I'll check to see if I can add any other 'wants' to the list.
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#5 Re: The crunch of rusty metal parting ......

Post by DWW » Wed Aug 02, 2023 12:00 pm

It is probably worthwhile checking the other door as well to avoid future surprises.
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#6 Re: The crunch of rusty metal parting ......

Post by chrisfell » Wed Aug 02, 2023 3:26 pm

Further inspection......

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The glass channel is not as bad as I thought. It will be preserved, but a new seal will be fitted.

Once out ...
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..the regulator did look rough. But a spell with brushes and degreaser....
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...had it looking much better. The spring is still rough but most of the rust has gone. Now I'll just grease and oil everything up and wait for replacement seals and brackets to be delivered.
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Post by dlgis » Wed Aug 02, 2023 4:04 pm

Great and timely post, as I am planning to overhaul mine in the next few months 👍 i also will need to free up the door locks which can be a bit reluctant. Are you planning any work on yours?
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#8 Re: The crunch of rusty metal parting ......

Post by chrisfell » Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:35 pm

Cleaned components and a delivery of parts from SNGB today meant I could crack on....

One part to replace was the broken window frame mount. The new bracket didn't quite line up. So I pulled the door cap off (it had been rivetted on - why? It is supposed to be a push fit!) and pulled the window frame out. Where the frame attached to the top of the door had broken and been welded. Not well enough, the weld had fractured.
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And when I pulled the remains of the broken bracket out I found it was hand made from aluminium. No wonder it fractured. The frame was already loose at the top of the door, an aluminium bracket just wasn't strong enough and fretted with the movement. I wondered why the frame was alway loose. Now I know.

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It's all back together now. The frame is much more solid. The window glass is not very secure in the channel. I feel the need to apply some adhesive.

Another day.

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Before refitting the door card I thought I'd test the window regulator with the door shut. Wound the window up, climbed in, and..... both handles and all my tools were outside the car! That door mechanism is very stiff to operate without a handle.
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#9 Re: The crunch of rusty metal parting ......

Post by chrisfell » Thu Aug 03, 2023 1:55 pm

"Are you planning any work on yours?"
Darryl. No I am not doing anything to the locks. I did have the driver's door lock fail to release some time last year. A good spray with WD40 freed it up.
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Post by dlgis » Thu Aug 03, 2023 4:03 pm

Thanks, I did try WD40 but it didn’t improve it 🫤
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