Production date to Ownership

richard btype · Post by **richard btype** » Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:12 pm

Gents

Interesting to note:

David - 860294
Clive - 860320
Nick - 860341
Richard - 860403 manufactured 11th April 1962.

What I wonder is whether by this time, virtually a year after launch, production had caught up with demand. Reason for mentioning this being that 403 was delivered to Appleyard's in Leeds before arriving at the selling dealer Cox's garage and registered on the 1st June, then the first owner recorded 6 days later.

This would indicate not much urgency between manufacture and delivery and might suggest the car was available from stock rather than a placed order... [/b]

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:20 pm

I can beat that. According to the build data mine, 860897 was built September 62 but not registered via, Henleys and Coombe Bridge Garage until October 63. It could be a typing error on the heritage certificate and it could be October 62 but tht seems too quick almost. Data sheet also says dispatched to paint trial?

Post by **Heuer** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:30 pm

Mine (860294) was built on 15th March, dispatched on 17th April, first registered in Bristol on 18th April

miles5 · Post by **miles5** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:40 pm

Mine - 860526, built 8th May 1962, despatched to Henlys 26th May, registered 1st Jan 1963.

SEJohnson95 · Post by **SEJohnson95** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:36 pm

Richard's 3.8 - 860927 was dispatched on 24th October 1962 and first registered on 24th May 1963 to A&B Cars in Newton-Le-Willows, Lancashire. We've no clue where she was for sixth months and nobody we've been able to get hold of who worked at the car dealership can shed any light on the matter....

Dave K · Post by **Dave K** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:08 pm

Mine 876160 manufactured 21st Nov 1961, despatched to Albion cars, Monaco 6th January 1962.

Dave

Post by **Heuer** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:53 pm

Seems odd Jaguar were constantly worried about cash flow but allowed extended credit on built cars.. Where did they store them?

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:12 pm

It's always puzzled me why my car was so long before it was registered. Given they were allegedly rotting from day one six months or so was rather a long time. Would be interesting to know whether they had a back log of produced cars unsold. Interesting that its the UK cars above with this delay whereas the Export car was sold quite quickly. What was the economy like in 61 to 63 then I wonder . Maybe someone can shed some light on the matter.

Sarthe72 · Post by **Sarthe72** » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:27 am

Don't place too much credence in the build date records since they weren't that accurate in the day. I have several copies of heritage certificates which do not correspond at all with the data in either the Skilleter or Porter books.

mystery type · Post by **mystery type** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:41 pm

What was the economy like in 61 to 63 then I wonder

then maybe the delay from build to registered, was due to cancelled orders.

adam · Post by **adam** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:50 pm

Mine is 861007 manufactured 9th November 1962. Distributor, Henlys London, dealer Elmbridge Motors Tolworth Surrey to a G Veen from London W1, original reg was GV 2. It wasn't registered until January 1963. I have been trying to find out all it's history but have drawn a blank with the DVLA prior to 1986 when it was re-registered, is there any other ways to try?

Adam

richard btype · Post by **richard btype** » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:10 pm

Adam

I urge you to try and delve into as much history as possible, I have tended to do this on all my classic cars over the years and just adds a completely new dimension to the ownership experience. Instead of just a piece of machinery (and what a piece) one can discover all sorts of interesting facts which adds a new dimension. It clearly helps if one is fortunate enough to have the original buff coloured log book, without this it is a matter of how you approach the DVLA. Clearly they need to be circumspect. It might just work to write and advise that you are doing research to its early life. That is a very distinctive registration number and when as kids on a car journey in those days it was one of our games to spot the low numbers, the lower the number the higher the point. It always seemed to me that any single number with two letters tended to indicate a wealthy owner, certainly they were rarely seen on a Ford Anglia or Triumph Herald but often on Bentleys, E,types and Aston Martins so the special reg no was always significant and very often would represent the owners initials. Fortunately the Buff log book came with my car and after a bit of sleuthing I travelled to Yorkshire last summer to reunite my car with the son of the original owner and his wife (now 85) he was delighted and so was I. He still lived in the same property and recalled many little gems.

One of which:
In his twenties he persuaded his father to purchase the Etype when trading in his XK150 and took the keys to give the car some exercise when his father was away on holiday. He (the son) used to do some minor motorsport activity in his Mini Cooper and so his father later allowed him further use the car, on one journey to the Lakes with a friend it was raining and he would be unperturbed when the car would become a little loose in such conditions - on this occasion he stopped to offer a hitch hiker a lift. Said guy had to jump in the back and lie on the floor, shortly after he noticed this guy was becoming a little white in appearance and asked if he wanted to continue or get out - he chose to get out!

Do keep us up to speed with sleuthing work...

adam · Post by **adam** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:14 pm

Hi I think the problem is that a lot of records for cars was lost in the 80s when you had to change to a V5.Those owners that didn't, lost there registration numbers and all the records.

Adam

richard btype · Post by **richard btype** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:35 pm

Adam

The first owner of your car had quite a distinctive name, I once found the required information from the census and another from the electoral register both of which I believe are now available on line for a small fee.

What surprised me was that on one occasion there were very few to choose from with a matching name/initial and therefore not to onerous to follow up.

Richard

Dave K · Post by **Dave K** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:51 pm

It's a lot easier to follow the up the history of a UK car not so easy for the cars like mine that went abroad first.
Mine went to Albion cars in Monaco first and then onto the States and who knows where in between.
Can't get any info on mine at all, maybe some royalty in Monaco had it first

Dave

richard btype · Post by **richard btype** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:40 pm

Dave

Just a thought - do Albion still exist in Monaco or have they morphed into another name. Slim clues but worth asking a few questions?

Richard

Dave K · Post by **Dave K** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:59 pm

richard btype wrote:Dave

Just a thought - do Albion still exist in Monaco or have they morphed into another name. Slim clues but worth asking a few questions?

Richard

Richard,

I would have thought Albion cars in Monaco wouldn't have been a popular name so I did an online search a few years ago and came up with nothing.

I wouldn't know where to start looking if it has merged into a larger group.

I did also check out Sunbelt classics in Birmingham, Alabama where my car was imported from but got no joy there either so gave up.

Dave

ochryfoel · Post by **ochryfoel** » Sat May 24, 2014 8:24 pm

Hmmmmm interesting
My 3.8 FHC
Manufactured date 04/06/1963
Delivered to Jaguar Distribution Leeds 12/06/1963
Registered 14/06/1963 and sold to 1st owner B Dawson & Sons (Leeds)
As per green logbook and Jag Heritage Cert.
Cheers,
Peter

kie series 1 dh · Post by **kie series 1 dh** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:56 pm

How can I get a data sheet for mine? Many thanks

Post by **mgcjag** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:59 pm

Hi ..Whats your name...add it as a signature with your car model.....have a look here for a Heritage cert http://www.jaguarheritage.com/heritage-certificate

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