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#1 original radio

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:24 pm
by yev
hi guys. i am sure this have been discussed many times, but can anyone confirm model ( and hopefully post the picture) of radio which would have been installed from factory on 69 S2?

#2 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:23 pm
by Heuer
Thread here might help: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1375

As far as I know a radio was not on the Factory options list for the S2 cars so I assume they were dealer fit options, usually Radiomobile. However this 1969 Service Bulletin refers to the Philips 22RN/681:
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#3 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:03 pm
by Simon P
The Philips radio was for US cars (as per the service bulletin heading) as they offered the new-fangled FM option.

The preferred radio in the UK remained the Radiomobile, but as you rightly say if chosen it would have been a dealer fit rather than a factory fit anyway (and presumably you could have declined your dealer's preferred offering and gone for a make of your own choosing).

#4 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:08 pm
by yev
thanks. someone told me it should have been blaupunkt frankfurt, so it is not correct?

#5 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:43 pm
by Simon P
As above, I'm sure if you'd provided your dealer with one they would have fitted it, but otherwise I can't see a UK Jaguar dealership offering anything other than a Radiomobile.

#6 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:13 pm
by yev
yeah, understood. mine is US import and been told by someone from US that blaupunkt was correct one

#7 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:20 pm
by Simon P
Nice account of life at Radiomobile written by their one-time Service Manager (blimey people used to get through a lot of whisky in the course of a working day back then!)

http://www.mmsa.org.uk/history_of_car_radio.html

The fact that Smith's was the parent company explains the connection with Jaguar, and interesting to note that the author once installed an early television set at Sir William Lyons' place in Devon - presumably a holiday retreat (see about a third of the way down the article).

#8 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:35 pm
by Heuer
yev wrote:yeah, understood. mine is US import and been told by someone from US that blaupunkt was correct one
Your car would have had the Philips, either Factory fitted or supplied (in a box for fitting at the US dealership).

#9 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:09 pm
by yev
this one?
phillips.jpg
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#10 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:36 pm
by Bfastr
no, it would be this one.
http://www.xkedata.com/gallery/zoom/?id=375791
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Bob F

#11 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:48 pm
by Heuer
Bob

Good information - many thanks! I added the photo for you but in future if you want to do it the process is quite simple. Right mouse click on the required photo and then click on 'Copy Image Address'. Go to your Forum post, click on the 'mountain and sun' icon on the top toolbar (ninth from left) and paste the link between the ] [ brackets.This will work for about 90% of photos residing on the web (not on your PC) but if the photo is removed or moved it will no longer display here. Anything on XKEdata.com will be fine though.

#12 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:50 pm
by yev
Do you have an exact model number please?
Thanks a lot in advance!
So no to blaupunkt

#13 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:35 pm
by Heuer
Keep up! :seeingstars: The model number for 1969 USA cars is in the Jaguar Service Bulletin. Can't get much more authoritative than that. :doh:

#14 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:23 pm
by Bfastr
Thanks David,
I think the clue for me is they have to be already posted on the web, I will create a photobucket account or something similar. I was trying to upload from my PC.

as for the radio, they occasionally pop up on ebay, but be prepared to spend a load of money.
thankfully mine is original to the car, and the comment about the new fangled FM is funny because as it sits thats the only thing my radio now receives, something in the AM circuit has died and I really haven't given it much concern because I don't listen to it, I prefer to listen to the noise the car is generating.

#15 Re: original radio

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:05 pm
by yev
Heuer wrote:Keep up! :seeingstars: The model number for 1969 USA cars is in the Jaguar Service Bulletin. Can't get much more authoritative than that. :doh:
But model in service bulletin is the pic I posted which apparently is not correct ! Hence my question re: model number. Pls be nice to me , I am inexperienced

#16 Re: original radio

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:30 am
by Bfastr
There are two stickers on my Phillips radio, I dont know if it had a name but the stickers have this:
not sure what else I can tell you, they are rare and when they pop up they are an easy $400-$500 on eBay.

Type 22RN681/85
No. WA 12924

#17 Re: original radio

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:57 am
by Heuer
More info on the 22RN681/85 here: http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/philips_to ... rn681.html

Looks like it was called the 'Tourismo Spezial' whereas the one in your photo is a 'Tourismo TI'. This is the European version:
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You need the US version which has M M S FM FM on the buttons rather than M M K U U. Probably best to search eBay USA/Canada if you want to be totally correct. You could also contact Angus Moss to see if he has the correct radio in his "box of plenty".

#18 Re: original radio

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:55 pm
by jagman1970
I have an official UK Jaguar price list from 1970 and it shows "Radio 1080T with pull up aerial for E-Types at £36.00 plus £11.00 purchase tax total £47.00.

My 1970 car has a Motorola push button but not sure of the model which was already installed when I bought the car 40 years ago.

regards

Keith

#19 Re: original radio

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:41 pm
by Herzeg
Keith

That cheers me up no end as I decided to retrofit an old stereo during my half restoration. I managed to pick up a 1080 off ebay for £16 so looks like I got the right one! :dance:

John

#20 Re: original radio

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:04 pm
by Bfastr
Has anyone had any luck downloading the schematic from the radiomuesum site? (for this phillips radio)
seems like the links take you to a third party download and then it seems fishy to me. The time I tried it I never actually got a schematic. I would even be willing to pay for a decent schematic if I could find it.

right clicking on the little schematic in the top right just give me little portions of the document.