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#1 S2 power steering pump
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:57 am
by utz
Hello,
I'm having some problems with my power steering pump and am looking for
Spare parts.
The pump doesn?t work and I think because of the inner flow control valve...do not close.
with running engine there is now movment in the oil container .
who manufactured the pump and..
regards
Utz
#2
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:14 pm
by PeterCrespin
Beck Arnley. I think they were a big American outfit - not sure. Fitted to very many cars. Good luck. I think there is a test procedure in one of the manuals. Might even be the XJ6 manual - I don't remember exactly.
Pete
#3
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:43 am
by PeterCrespin
Might be Adwest. Check the book - I'm away from mine, sorry.
#4
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:20 am
by aussieseries2dhc
Might not be a concours valid suggestion, but suggest ditch the hydraulic power steering and install the under dash EZ electric power steering unit.
http://www.ezpowersteering.nl/language/23/2/Home.html
Good reports and testimonials.
I have purchased a unit for my series 2 dhc and will install shortly.
cheers,
john
#5
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:25 am
by rolando38
coming back on power steering, manual mentions page IIY.s.1 that for a series 2 , Adwest as manufacturer of the steering gear, and Hobourn Eaton as manufacturer of the oil pump
as for XJ seies1, manual mentions page II.3 :
manufacturer of the steering gear: Adwest
manufacturer of the oil pump : Saginaw
so apparently pumps are different
I'm looking for a Hoborn Eaton pump, if anyone has one ...please send me a message
#6
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 5:34 pm
by iradek
Rolando did you find PS pump? I am in the same situation. I just bougt 1969 Series 2 and PS pump is missing. I can't seem to find a replacement.
#7
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:29 pm
by rolando38
no, I haven't found any, but I did'nt search very hard...
I'm finally not sure to want refitting one
By the way did you work for Weeler dealers in one of their series in Poland ?
#8
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:43 pm
by iradek
You have seen it? There were actually 2 episodes in Poland. One with Syrena - polish car from communicm time, and also Lamborghini.
No it wasn't me, but Wheeeler Dealers is very popular in Poland.
Tell me, was your pump missing or it's just broken?
#9
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 4:56 pm
by rolando38
good to know; thanks
I still need the pump to overhaul , though
do you own a Facel Vega ? I long dreamed of a HK500 and was close to buying one ...when prices were one tenth of today
I'm considering a Facel III now,...
#10
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:22 pm
by rolando38
wow !
what a collection ! congrats Alfred you and your father have very good taste
#11
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:56 pm
by JagWaugh
rolando38 wrote:coming back on power steering, manual mentions page IIY.s.1 that for a series 2 , Adwest as manufacturer of the steering gear, and Hobourn Eaton as manufacturer of the oil pump
as for XJ seies1, manual mentions page II.3 :
manufacturer of the steering gear: Adwest
manufacturer of the oil pump : Saginaw
so apparently pumps are different
I'm looking for a Hoborn Eaton pump, if anyone has one ...please send me a message
Rolando,
The Hobourn Eaton pumps are the ones that go on the back of the generator. Do you need a whole pump, or is yours rebuildable? Barratts sells the seal kit, as well as new rollers and star wheels for inside. Wuite easy to rebuild.
Andrew
#12
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:30 pm
by PeterCrespin
I saw an S2 with a steering pump for the first time a week or so back. Very small, very neat and nothing at all like the S3 E, the XJ or the ones I've seen on the back of a dynamo. I can believe they are scarce.
#13
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:37 pm
by JagWaugh
Aha... The Saloons transitioned from Genny mounted HE roller on the Mark 2 and S-Type straight to the Sagninaw Vane type with a built in Reservoir on the 420. I have only ever seen Jaguars with HE pumps on the Genny.
Early Mustangs (and I think Studebakers) had a belt driven roller pump like the HE one, with a built in reservoir.
Andrew
#14 Re: stearing pump S2
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:42 pm
by iradek
facelvega wrote:Close to my hometown I have found a small company who is specialized on hydraulic servo pumps.
My pump was overhault and now runs absolutely perfect. The costs are 200 EURO.
If somebody needs help, please let me know via PN.
Alfred
My pump was gone when I bought the car, so unless I find a replacement pump I'm in trouble
#15
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:00 pm
by JagWaugh
Iradek,
Consider fitting a saginaw type, this would get you on the road while you are still trying to source the correct type. Make sure you get the bracket with the pump, I suspect the 420/XJ bracket will fit, but I am not certain. You'll need to have a set of hoses made up, but any hydraulics shop can do that.
Andrew
#16
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:01 pm
by PeterCrespin
The correct pump has no reservoir -they used a reservoir jist like the early saloons (my dynamo pump MkIX had the same type) mounted behind the rearmost fuid reservoir on LHD cars.
I would think there are enough PS cars converted to manual steering for there to be quite a few discarded pumps available, same as there are discarded automatics. Failing that, get rid of your own PS until you find a pump?
#17
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:16 pm
by rolando38
I have no more PS and the steering is quite OK (16" steering wheel)
however I still have the PS steering rack...any potentila problem ? PO seems to have put on with it for more than a decade
#18
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:52 pm
by JagWaugh
Not really a big risk of the rack failing. How have you blanked off the hose ports? The E doesn't really _need_ PAS.
Andrew
#19
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:57 am
by rolando38
the hose has not been really blanked off by PO, on the upper side where the pump was
should I tap it or connectit to the liquid tank so some lubrication is kept ?
#20
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:33 pm
by JagWaugh
If you don't mind leaving the reservoir in place, then just fit a blanking plug at the steeing box (ask at a hydraulic place that makes hoses). Leave the return hose between the pump and the reservoir in place. At the reservoir fit a short length of hose at the tank nipple, plug that with a plug and fit a clamp. That is how I would do it. Retaining the reservoir makes it easy to keep the box filled with oil.
If you want to remove the reservoir, get a hydraulic shop to make up a "T" hose, two ends with the correct flares to fit the feed and return ports of the steering box, and the third end just with a removable plug.
However you do it you want to make sure that
1) dirt and mosture can't get into the steering box
2) the oil inside the box stays inside the box
3) you have some way to check if the box has oil, and add oil as required.
Andrew