Hi All
About 2 years ago, I replaced the previous SNG ignition conversion on my Series 3 E-type with a new SNG Ignition conversion (not HE).
i just wanted to check the following with other forum members who have this converted ignition system:
1. the original ballast resistor (i.e. pre SNGB, "OPUS days") was required to ensure 12 volts to the 9 volt coil when starting the engine. After starting when the ignition key was returned to position II the voltage to the coil was reduced to 9 volt
2. with the SNGB conversion is that still the case OR is the "ballast resistor" now just a connector between ignition, coil and amplifier?
I checked the voltage on the coil for ignition switch positions II and III and it remained at 12 volts which would indicate that 2 above is correct?
I guess it's a question I should have asked some time ago!
Look forward to the usual well-informed responses
Chris
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#1 Series 3 SNGB Ignition Conversion
Chris Davies
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#2 Re: Series 3 SNGB Ignition Conversion
Perhaps we can phone SNGB for you and report back? Just call them, instead of asking a random group of strangers who may or may not know the answer.chris420sa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:50 pm...with the SNGB conversion is that still the case OR is the "ballast resistor" now just a connector between ignition, coil and amplifier?
This doesn't always necessarily tell you what you want. If you connect something to 12v and it isn't connected at the other end, it'll just end up all being at 12v, much like a bird sitting on a telegraph (or HT power) wire.* By contrast, when current is flowing and if components are connected in series, the voltage drop seen across them will be proportional to the impedance presented (as the coil charges).chris420sa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:50 pmI checked the voltage on the coil for ignition switch positions II and III and it remained at 12 volts which would indicate that 2 above is correct?
kind regards
Marek
*Another example:- with a negative earth car, the s1 windscreen wiper motor is sitting permanently at 12v until the wipers are in use, when the earth side of the circuit is connected.
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#3 Re: Series 3 SNGB Ignition Conversion
In many ignition systems, the ballast resistor is bypassed during cranking to ensure the maximum coil charging during cranking. Keep in mind that during cranking, the voltage is unlikely to be "12V" but something much lower, depending on battery, cabling and grounding conditions. This lower voltage (whatever it may be) is what is then directly applied to the coil (during cranking only).chris420sa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:50 pm1. the original ballast resistor (i.e. pre SNGB, "OPUS days") was required to ensure 12 volts to the 9 volt coil when starting the engine. After starting when the ignition key was returned to position II the voltage to the coil was reduced to 9 volt
I've never heard of a "9V coil. (Not saying it does not exist). I have heard of 6V coils.
I do not speak for SNG but being a modern ignition system, it SHOULD have all kinds of modern ignition system functionality built in, I would expect. Such as, voltage compensation - which should increase dwell time (coil charge time ) specially during cranking, when voltage levels are low as per #1 above. These modern ignition systems SHOULD also obviate the need for a ballast resistor (with built-in current limiting and RPM detection) and should also work best with a low primary resistance 12V coil on the V12.chris420sa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:50 pm2. with the SNGB conversion is that still the case OR is the "ballast resistor" now just a connector between ignition, coil and amplifier?
Having a ballast resistor in series with the SNG ignition system MIGHT be counter productive - specially at higher revs. Best is to follow the installation instructions - hoping they are sufficiently comprehensive.
The ballast resistor MIGHT still be needed for other purposes, eg, like a series resistor in line going to the tacho, (to prevent the tach from being fried by the coil- spikes).
Best Regards
Philip
Jag: 72 S3 XKE, 73 S3 XKE OTS, 80 XJS (Megasquirt + 5sp manual O/D)
Jensen: 74 Interceptor (EFI by Megasquirt + O/D 4sp auto)
Chev: 59 Apache std, 70 C10 (350V8, 700R4)
Philip
Jag: 72 S3 XKE, 73 S3 XKE OTS, 80 XJS (Megasquirt + 5sp manual O/D)
Jensen: 74 Interceptor (EFI by Megasquirt + O/D 4sp auto)
Chev: 59 Apache std, 70 C10 (350V8, 700R4)
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