Power steering control valve

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#1 Power steering control valve

Post by Motionwork » Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:56 pm

Should there be any seals on the control valve in the steering pump?
There are a couple of grooves halfway along the assembly that makes me think that there should be, but I cannot recall seeing any on it when I took it apart. I have checked the parts catalogue and there is no indication that there should be.
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#2 Re: Power steering control valve

Post by Motionwork » Sun Apr 10, 2022 2:59 pm

Photo of the control valve.

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#3 Re: Power steering control valve

Post by lowact » Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:04 am

No. Do/did you have an issue with the steering? If not ...
Now that you have it apart, you could add the washer, per the Jaguar tech bulletin; this reduces the power assist to improve steering "feel". Here is mine with washer installed.
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#4 Re: Power steering control valve

Post by Motionwork » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:58 pm

Hi Colin,

Thanks for the reply. I have been having problems with the power steering for a while.
Initially the bearing in the pump failed and I sent it off to be re-conditioned. When it came back the steering was good for a while and then it stopped working. I am guessing that there must have been some debris from the bearing that has blocked a pipe. Anyway I dismantled the pump and checked all the apertures and they seem fine. I removed the steering rack and fluid pipes and blew compressed air through the four external pipes and they are good. I took the pinion out of the rack and the ports seem clear, although I am now kicking myself that I didn't put the airline on them. I have cleaned the control valve and re-assembled everything, but still there is no power assist, or if there is, then it is barely noticeable.

It looks likely that I will take the steering rack out and blow the airline through all the fluid holes in the pinion.
You mention adding a washer into the control valve, which reduces the pressure in the power steering. On mine, Also,I have two slim washers and I am wondering if I remove one of them, whether it will make a difference.

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#5 Re: Power steering control valve

Post by MarekH » Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:04 pm

That valve is a relief valve - it only sets/adjusts the cap on the fluid pressure.

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#6 Re: Power steering control valve

Post by Motionwork » Wed Apr 13, 2022 6:53 pm

Thanks for the info Marek, if I remove one of the thin washers, would this increase the fluid pressure in the system?

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#7 Re: Power steering control valve

Post by MarekH » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:41 am

A correctly working pump will always produce lots of pressure anyway.

Removing a shim will make the maximum possible pressure increase because the cap is set higher. If you don't have a high fluid pressure to start with, the valve and its shims etc aren't in play at all.

There should be plenty of information about Saginaw pumps on other forums.

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#8 Re: Power steering control valve

Post by lowact » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:18 am

Also youtube video's of Saginaw pumps, i found very useful.
The Jag mod was to add a 50 thou washer (1.27 mm), i doubt removing a thinner washer would make noticeable difference even if u did have pressure.
Might not be a pinion problem or pump problem, could be the rack piston seal is leaking ...
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