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#1 Coil wiring

Post by Gfhug » Sat May 16, 2020 6:23 pm

The S2 wiring diagram shows a white wire from the tacho going to the positive terminal of the coil then the white/black going from the coil negative to the distributor.
Mine has always had the tacho wire (now from an rvc converted tacho) going to the coil positive and the white/black coming from the same positive terminal to the distributor. Then there’s a black wire from the coil negative to earth, which isn’t shown in the diagram. The wires all look original.
It works, but when checking things prior to trying a 123 dizzy there is no 12 volts at the coil positive.
I shall admit to being a bit confused by this and will be grateful for any thoughts.

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#2 Re: Coil wiring

Post by Tom W » Sat May 16, 2020 6:33 pm

Does your car have a ballast resistor?
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#3 Re: Coil wiring

Post by mgcjag » Sat May 16, 2020 7:01 pm

Hi Geoff...your coil cant have one side permanently earthed...you would never start the car...if your installing a 123 i would also suggest that you power it (12v) from the fuse panel and not from the coil as the 123 diagram suggests as there havd been problems with 123,s. powered from the coil......Steve
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#4 Re: Coil wiring

Post by Gfhug » Sat May 16, 2020 8:12 pm

Tom, thank you, I should have said no ballast resistor
Steve, I know it all sounds silly but that is how it has been all the past six years. But your comment about powering the 123 from a separate source and not the coil will be followed, thanks

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#5 Re: Coil wiring

Post by mgcjag » Sat May 16, 2020 8:17 pm

Hi Geoff.....it just wont work with a permenant earth on the coil.....trace all your wireing again......your description of how its wired must be wrong....Steve
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#6 Re: Coil wiring

Post by flatfloor 3.8 » Sat May 16, 2020 9:02 pm

Hi what problems arise from wiring a 123 from the coil. Thank you
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#7 Re: Coil wiring

Post by mgcjag » Sat May 16, 2020 9:19 pm

Dont know the specifics.....lots here on the forum and other forums....so better to be on the safe side and not take you 12v from the coil....Steve
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#8 Re: Coil wiring

Post by Tom W » Sat May 16, 2020 9:41 pm

My 123 worked fine from the coil. It’s the RVI rev counter on the series 2 that doesn’t always work when the 123 is powered via the coil live.
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#9 Re: Coil wiring

Post by mgcjag » Sun May 17, 2020 8:00 am

Hi Tom...yes thats it.....knew there could be a problem couldnt remember what it was...thanks..Steve
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#10 Re: Coil wiring

Post by ALAN COCHRANE » Sun May 17, 2020 8:54 am

Geoff

It's sounds like your coil is wired in reverse. It would still work but the spark wouldn't be quite so strong. You will probably find that the coil negative terminal will have 12V applied. Although you say that the black wire from there connects to earth, is this actually the case or does it run at 12V?
I've checked my GT6 wiring diagram and the electronic tacho has a feed from the negative side of the coil, so with your setup it would be connected to the positive side, which appears to be the case.

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#11 Re: Coil wiring

Post by Gfhug » Sun May 17, 2020 11:14 am

Alan, you were right, thank you
Steve, as always thank you for your wise counsel

123 set up and fired up first time :bouncyyellow:
Now to find out why the (rvc) tacho isn’t working, but that seems to be a known problem and searching the forum later should help.

Edited to add: tacho now working

Thanks as always to the forum members for their help, guidance and being such good eggs :yellow:

Geoff

Postscript: took the car out for a brief drive and the 123 was smooth on curve zero (the older 123 with 16 pre-programmed curves)
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#12 Re: Coil wiring

Post by abowie » Mon May 18, 2020 12:38 am

Gfhug wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 11:14 am

Edited to add: tacho now working

Thanks as always to the forum members for their help, guidance and being such good eggs :yellow:

Geoff
Glad to hear it all works.

For posterity and my own interest how did you get the RVC tacho to work properly?

Might save someone else some time in the future.
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#13 Re: Coil wiring

Post by Gfhug » Mon May 18, 2020 7:35 am

Andrew, it was the same wiring mistake where the coil pos and neg had been the wrong way round. I put the rvc tacho pick up back on the positive side, but it should have been the negative terminal. The Spiyda website gave the correction pick up info.

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