I give up. help please!

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:32 pm

I am trying to remove the hub and wheel bearings from my IRS Hub carrier on the series one E. However, whilst I have a lovely bells and whistles 20 ton floor press can I find a way to hold the wretched thing whilst I press the hub out, can I flip?

Can someone tell me the easiest way to do this please? The manual rather unhelpfully simply has a drawing of it being pressed out! Any photos would be welcome as well! thx a lot Andrew

vipergts · Post by **vipergts** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:24 pm

Andrew a visit to Harrys is easy peasy....I fI can do it anyone can. His press is shaped right for the job.

I might even help you.

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:58 am

thats a kind offer Lee which I may well take you up on. I will speak to you off line about it. thanks a lot

christopher storey · Post by **christopher storey** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:55 am

Andrew : it is normally the drive shaft which causes problems and requires a press . If you have already got the hub off the drive shaft splines, then usually it can be tapped out of the hub carrier easily using a wooden drift and a smallish lump hammer . I do it holding the carrier in a Black and Decker Workmate and putting an old cushion underneath to prevent the hub crashing to earth

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:58 am

thanks Christopher

Well rather worryingly the drive shaft fell out but sides! But the bearings and hub are quite tight. Holding it in the press is a hard job without damaging the aluminium but i will try your technique. To be fair, I did have a quick go with a brass punch but assumed it would need a proper press, so maybe I need to try again. Thanks as always and will let you know how I get along

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:11 pm

well. That was easy after all. Thanks to Christopher and to Lee . I was convinced that I would have to use the bells and whistles press, but in the event all I needed was the MK1 Belter in the form of a ball pein hammer. Thanks to Lee for lending me his hammer, clearly his is better than mine! Anyway, it did afford me the opportunity to have a look at his 4.2 project which is awesome and quite something for me to aspire to. His IRS looks like something from an F1 car. Now all I am worried about is why my splined drive shaft "fell" out of the hub when most others seem to be stuck fast!

vipergts · Post by **vipergts** » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:24 pm

Thanks Andrew...such kind words

Get some new splines and see how they fit onto your shafts. They should slide on if perfectly straight.

christopher storey · Post by **christopher storey** » Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:37 am

I wouldn't worry too much about the splines provided they show no signs of burring or chattering . The usual reason that they can be difficult to remove is that at some point, particularly in the XJ6 era, Jaguar advised the use of loctite on the splines, and this makes them very difficult to remove without a press and/or heat

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:16 pm

well, now i have a new problem, one of my hub carriers has a crack in it along the lower fulcrum shaft direction. Ummh, rather depressing. Is this a regular problem ?? Can it be welded or are there any replacement available. grrrr

christopher storey · Post by **christopher storey** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:51 pm

Interesting . This is not a common problem but is the second one I've heard of this year, (it was found on my pal's 2+2 ) and when I asked someone what they thought the cause might be, the opinion was that water had got inside the seals and frozen . It was welded up without any problem, the crack being Veed and then line welded and ground to shape

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:09 pm

ok, thanks. I have to say that I would prefer a new one as it is a fairly important part of the rear suspension. I will try to post a photo in due course, but its a very thin hairline crack. Most depressing, in fact it rather caused me to pack up for the day!

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:59 pm

here it is. You can also see that the old electolysis has been at work between the lower wishbone and the alloy

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christopher storey · Post by **christopher storey** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:11 pm

I think it is very difficult if not impossible to find new ones . CMC who did the work on the 2+2 initially were going to convert a S/H XJ6 one, but that has its difficulties, hence the fact that eventually welding was thought the best option

Post by **mgcjag** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:22 pm

Hi Andrew.....for some reason I think that I have seen an add recently in one of the jag mags for a company recasting new rear hubs, from alloy & also another metal of a higher spec......will try to hunt it down......Steve

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:53 pm

thanks Steve. That would be great if you can find it. I am sure it can be sucessfully welded, but if I can get a new one, or another correct original it may be a better bet.

Post by **mgcjag** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:34 pm

Hi Andrew try Denis welch they re manufacture http://www.bighealey.co.uk/category/cat ... suspension

Steve

Post by **Heuer** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:11 pm

Nice one Steve - I will add them to our suppliers links in the Knowledge Base.

andrewh · Post by **andrewh** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:06 pm

Hey thanks a lot Steve. That's great news. I am travelling at the moment and cannot get a good web feed so will check it out when back on broadbnand. Sounds very encouraging news. Ia ppreciate the help. Cheers. Andrew

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